DanikaB contributed 127 messages, 85 emotes, 19 private messages, 4 private emotes during 168 minutes.
2007.07.23 06:05:43 Login
Room: Brown4325_Grp
2007.07.23 06:05:43 DanikaB joined the room.
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2007.07.23 06:47:26 SandraFl: Good morning Dr. Brown!
2007.07.23 06:48:39 SandraFl: I'm a little nervous about the
presentations...don't know how exactly I'll be able to access the
websites my classmates have assigned from tapped in??????//
2007.07.23 06:49:55 SandraFl left the room (signed off).
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2007.07.23 06:57:35 LizaR: Morning
2007.07.23 06:58:56 DanikaB: hello
2007.07.23 06:59:01 DanikaB: sorry, wasn't at my computer
2007.07.23 06:59:11 LizaR: that's k
2007.07.23 06:59:54 LizaR: where do i go again in order to look at the calendar of events?
2007.07.23 07:00:14 DanikaB: click on the "tapped in" tab at the top of the screen....
2007.07.23 07:00:20 DanikaB: then click on the "Calendar" tab
2007.07.23 07:00:43 LizaR: lol, that was simple. sorry i had forgot
2007.07.23 07:01:09 DanikaB: no worries!
2007.07.23 07:01:12 DanikaB smiles
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2007.07.23 07:04:57 ElizabetCh: Good morning, I
2007.07.23 07:05:15 LizaR: morning
2007.07.23 07:05:31 DanikaB waves and smiles
2007.07.23 07:06:07 ElizabetCh: I'm having a little trouble with my computer, hopefully it won't disconnect.
2007.07.23 07:06:42 LizaR: for our wkshops assignmnt, we r only required to attend 1?
2007.07.23 07:06:50 DanikaB: if it does, just log back in... we'll keep you posted.
2007.07.23 07:06:55 DanikaB: right, Liza.
2007.07.23 07:06:59 LizaR: k
2007.07.23 07:07:15 DanikaB excusees herself to get more coffee
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2007.07.23 07:08:02 LizaR: Hi joseph!
2007.07.23 07:08:13 JosephAW: Hello
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2007.07.23 07:22:27 DanikaB waves at you all
2007.07.23 07:22:36 SandraFl: Am i in the right place for our class presentations? still trying to get the hang of this...
2007.07.23 07:22:41 SylviaMe: hello!!!
2007.07.23 07:22:46 DanikaB: I'm trying to upload the reading for
tomorrow, but its taking an awful long time on my home connection
2007.07.23 07:23:00 DanikaB: yes, Sandra, you are... sit tight and i'll give everyone directions.
2007.07.23 07:23:06 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 07:23:15 SandraFl: thanks! and hello everyone!
2007.07.23 07:23:21 LizaR: morning
2007.07.23 07:23:33 DanikaB: hope everyone had a good weekend.
2007.07.23 07:24:35 DanikaB frowns at the fact that the reading upload just stalled.
2007.07.23 07:24:54 DanikaB may have to log off and resign back in
2007.07.23 07:24:56 MariaBa: well I'm trying print the rdg but I better wait because I don't want to mess up the this site
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2007.07.23 07:25:45 RicardoT: is it monday already?!
2007.07.23 07:25:52 DanikaB: okay, i apologize, but i'm going to have
to log off. i'll be right back.... everyone just sit tight for a few
minutes
2007.07.23 07:25:53 ChristineQ: unfortunately
2007.07.23 07:25:54 DanikaB: please
2007.07.23 07:25:55 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 07:25:59 RicardoT: NooooOOOOOOooo!
2007.07.23 07:26:08 RicardoT: j/k
2007.07.23 07:26:18 JoseJC joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:26:28 MariaBa: what happened
2007.07.23 07:26:30 JoseJC: morning!
2007.07.23 07:26:35 ChristineQ: there are considerably less people here today
2007.07.23 07:26:44 RicardoT: its monday
2007.07.23 07:26:47 JoseJC: oh sweet sunshine how I've missed you so
2007.07.23 07:26:59 JoseJC: and by sunshine I mean the delicious glow from my computer screen
2007.07.23 07:27:00 ChristineQ left the room (signed off).
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2007.07.23 07:27:01 RicardoT: lies, your still in bed jose
2007.07.23 07:27:07 MariaBa: good morning Jose
2007.07.23 07:27:10 JoseJC: pfft I wish, if I had a laptop I'd do that
2007.07.23 07:27:13 JoseJC: good morning maria! :D
2007.07.23 07:27:24 DanikaB wishes her new laptop would get here already
2007.07.23 07:27:28 RicardoT: morning everyone!
2007.07.23 07:27:32 DanikaB: good morning
2007.07.23 07:27:33 JoseJC: hell I'd just hook my brain up to a usb port
2007.07.23 07:27:41 JoseJC: and become a vegetable
2007.07.23 07:27:43 ChristineQ: Jose, is your teaching resource under jose canels or hernandez?
2007.07.23 07:27:46 RicardoT: what kinda laptop is it Danika?
2007.07.23 07:27:52 JoseJC: I should be JoseJC
2007.07.23 07:27:57 JoseJC: in the discussion thing
2007.07.23 07:27:57 DanikaB: macbook pro
2007.07.23 07:27:59 ChristineQ: ok
2007.07.23 07:28:02 JoseJC: EL OH EL MAC
2007.07.23 07:28:03 JoseJC: sorry
2007.07.23 07:28:04 RicardoT: nice
2007.07.23 07:28:10 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 07:28:24 DanikaB: my old one was a macbook pro too, but it was the very first one....
2007.07.23 07:28:35 DanikaB: i'll feel spoiled even more with this new one.
2007.07.23 07:28:35 ErikaC joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:28:41 JoseJC: yes, my links are under "Links for my resource" ;v
2007.07.23 07:28:44 ErikaC: hello everyone
2007.07.23 07:28:45 RicardoT: im surprised it lasted that long
2007.07.23 07:28:47 JoseJC: I'm very unimaginative :(
2007.07.23 07:28:59 JoseJC: in other news, I require some coffee
2007.07.23 07:29:03 ChristineQ: hello
2007.07.23 07:29:05 DanikaB: macs last forever... or at least it seems that way to me
2007.07.23 07:29:05 JoseJC: so I'll be back in 20 seconds
2007.07.23 07:29:08 JoseJC: and
2007.07.23 07:29:11 JoseJC: good morning erika!
2007.07.23 07:29:15 LizaR: hey cris.
2007.07.23 07:29:15 DanikaB: okay jose. we'll wait for a few minutes for everyone to get here.
2007.07.23 07:29:19 JoseJC: okie doke
2007.07.23 07:29:23 DanikaB hopes people aren't sitting in the classroom
2007.07.23 07:29:39 ChristineQ: they'll figure it out if they are
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2007.07.23 07:29:45 MariaBa: what link to we click on the side to start class
2007.07.23 07:29:48 DanikaB hopes so!
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2007.07.23 07:30:16 RicardoT: latata
2007.07.23 07:30:22 DanikaB: don't worry about clicking anything yet,
maria, but i'll be telling people to click on the "Teaching Resources"
folder featured under discussions
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2007.07.23 07:30:35 ChristineQ: I'll present first
2007.07.23 07:30:40 ChristineQ: I got dibbs
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2007.07.23 07:30:57 RicardoT: shotgun works better
2007.07.23 07:31:05 ChristineQ: shotgun it is
2007.07.23 07:31:06 NoraEG: good morning
2007.07.23 07:31:09 JoanieP joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:31:09 RicardoT: yayy
2007.07.23 07:31:15 ChristineQ: morning nora
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2007.07.23 07:31:30 DanikaB: christine, i'll put you down for first then
2007.07.23 07:31:43 NoraEG: good morning christine
2007.07.23 07:31:43 ChristineQ: super
2007.07.23 07:31:56 DanikaB: josephAW and JoseJC are also scheduled to present.
2007.07.23 07:31:57 MarcosC: Are we meeting online on thursday as well?
2007.07.23 07:31:59 RicardoT: this bigger screen is sooo much better
2007.07.23 07:32:07 DanikaB: Did someone else want to present today? I can't remember.
2007.07.23 07:32:16 JoanieP left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:32:30 LizaR: i did, but was unable to get it finished. sorry.
2007.07.23 07:32:33 DanikaB: i'm glad that's working for you ricardo
2007.07.23 07:32:43 DanikaB: that's fine, liza, just wanted to check
2007.07.23 07:32:44 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 07:32:55 RicardoT: *pats self on back*
2007.07.23 07:32:55 DanikaB: wouldn't want to prevent anyone from going
2007.07.23 07:33:07 LizaR: k
2007.07.23 07:33:11 DanikaB: jose, are you back from coffee fetching yet?
2007.07.23 07:33:31 JoseJC: not exactly :3 water's still boiling
2007.07.23 07:33:32 DanikaB guesses not by the silence
2007.07.23 07:33:33 RicardoT: must be some good coffee
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2007.07.23 07:33:37 DanikaB: ah, okay
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2007.07.23 07:33:47 DanikaB: well, there's about 18 of you here....
2007.07.23 07:33:58 JoseJC: also there are ants in my cereal hmm... oh well I hear they're good protein
2007.07.23 07:33:58 ChristineQ: how long do we wait for the stragglers
2007.07.23 07:34:01 DanikaB: which is a little lite, but we shouuld maybe get started ...
2007.07.23 07:34:14 DanikaB: before we begin the presentations, let me give you all a few pointers....
2007.07.23 07:34:24 RicardoT: thats a harsh word but its true...straglers
2007.07.23 07:34:28 RicardoT: haha
2007.07.23 07:34:29 DanikaB: first of all, I ask that while the presenter is "talking"....
2007.07.23 07:34:42 DanikaB: we don't chatter on the chatboard....
2007.07.23 07:34:57 DanikaB: feel free to use the action, :raises hand
2007.07.23 07:35:02 AidaM left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:35:10 DanikaB: if you have a question, but try not to just talk a bunch
2007.07.23 07:35:21 DanikaB: unless the presenter asks you to, in which case, please do!
2007.07.23 07:35:25 DanikaB: second...
2007.07.23 07:35:50 DanikaB: pay attention to directions your presenter
gives you... if they tell you to follow a link, do so... it should open
in a separate window.
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2007.07.23 07:36:19 DanikaB: for those presenters who have put links up
under the discussion board, all you need to do is click on the
discussion under "teaching resources....."
2007.07.23 07:36:29 DanikaB: find their post, and click on the links in the post.
2007.07.23 07:36:43 DanikaB: does that all make sense to everyone or do you have any questions?
2007.07.23 07:36:57 LizaR: undrstd
2007.07.23 07:36:58 NoraEG: no questions
2007.07.23 07:36:59 MirandaR joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:37:01 RicardoT: yes
2007.07.23 07:37:02 KristinR: no questions
2007.07.23 07:37:08 ChristineQ: nope
2007.07.23 07:37:11 MarcosC: i get it
2007.07.23 07:37:11 JoanieP joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:37:12 ErikaC: ok
2007.07.23 07:37:15 LoriOl: so far so good....but we will see
2007.07.23 07:37:21 DanikaB welcomes joanie back.
2007.07.23 07:37:26 JoanieP smiles
2007.07.23 07:37:26 JosephAW: I put one doc in notes. Will everyone be able to access it?
2007.07.23 07:37:56 ChristineQ: I dont see it joseph
2007.07.23 07:37:57 DanikaB: all right... if any of you gets confused
or stuck, use the "private chat" feature and ask me (or one of your
classmates, but not the presenter) for help
2007.07.23 07:38:06 JoseJC: I got something
2007.07.23 07:38:08 NikkiC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:38:17 JoseJC: I scrolled back up and saw christine wanted to go first?
2007.07.23 07:38:25 JoseJC: I mean I have no problems with that :3
2007.07.23 07:38:33 JosephAW: I am sorry. It is in Files.
2007.07.23 07:38:39 ChristineQ: I got it now
2007.07.23 07:38:51 KristinR: got it as well
2007.07.23 07:38:51 JoseJC: so you are going first? ok cool
2007.07.23 07:38:53 JoseJC: oh wait
2007.07.23 07:39:04 DanikaB: i just featured joseph's file, so if you
click on welcome or on files, you should be able to see it nwo
2007.07.23 07:39:16 JosephAW: Thank you.
2007.07.23 07:39:17 DanikaB: no, christine is going first, right?
2007.07.23 07:39:22 ChristineQ: yup
2007.07.23 07:39:32 ChristineQ: the sooner the better
2007.07.23 07:39:35 JoseJC: kk
2007.07.23 07:39:38 ChristineQ: less gitters
2007.07.23 07:39:42 JoseJC: gives me more time for coffee wooooo
2007.07.23 07:39:45 JoseJC is wired.
2007.07.23 07:40:00 ChristineQ: weirdness happens
2007.07.23 07:40:01 DanikaB: so does everyone see "Christine's Edible Science..." thread?
2007.07.23 07:40:14 NikkiC joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:40:17 ChristineQ: http://madsci.org/experiments/
2007.07.23 07:40:19 ErikaC: on the email?
2007.07.23 07:40:22 MirandaR: YES
2007.07.23 07:40:24 DanikaB: make sure to bring that up on your screen and we'll go ahead and turn things over to her
2007.07.23 07:40:27 RicardoT left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:40:29 ChristineQ: here is the link for those of you who don't see it
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2007.07.23 07:40:36 DanikaB steps away and let's christing take center stage
2007.07.23 07:40:39 ErikaC left the room (signed off).
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2007.07.23 07:40:52 KristinR: got it
2007.07.23 07:41:01 DanikaB hopes everyone's connections stabilize, but don't worry if people come and go
2007.07.23 07:41:05 ChristineQ: My teaching resource is on teaching science to children
2007.07.23 07:41:30 JosephAW left the room (signed off).
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2007.07.23 07:41:55 ChristineQ: take some time to look over the site and explore the experiements
2007.07.23 07:42:07 DanikaB goes to eat some science
2007.07.23 07:42:18 RicardoT raises hand: the link just kicked me off
2007.07.23 07:42:43 ChristineQ: http://madsci.org/experiments/
2007.07.23 07:42:46 NoraEG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:42:49 ChristineQ: try this one ricardo
2007.07.23 07:42:59 LoriOl: is there anyone in particular you want us to look at?
2007.07.23 07:43:21 RicardoT: thanks
2007.07.23 07:43:22 ChristineQ: not right now, feel free to look at whichever one catches you eye
2007.07.23 07:43:28 JoanieP: COOL website
2007.07.23 07:43:38 NoraEG joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:43:40 SylviaMe: very interesting
2007.07.23 07:43:51 ChristineQ: THanks :smiles
2007.07.23 07:44:12 ChristineQ: the reason i chose this site is because it makes learning science fun
2007.07.23 07:44:15 DanikaB: i like the cat's meow
2007.07.23 07:44:16 ErikaC science can be fun!!!
2007.07.23 07:44:19 JosephAW left the room (signed off).
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2007.07.23 07:44:21 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 07:44:33 DanikaB: Christine, have you tried any of the experiments?
2007.07.23 07:44:33 ChristineQ: Lets look over the cats meow
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2007.07.23 07:44:59 ChristineQ: I tried the cats meow, it looks like a kaleidascope
2007.07.23 07:45:07 DanikaB: excellent!
2007.07.23 07:45:11 ChristineQ: however its spelled
2007.07.23 07:45:22 DanikaB thinks you got it right.
2007.07.23 07:45:23 ChristineQ: http://madsci.org/experiments/archive/861374412.Ch.html
2007.07.23 07:45:40 ChristineQ: thats the link for the cats meow for those who need it
2007.07.23 07:46:16 ChristineQ: These experiements can be done to reinforce concepts learned in class
2007.07.23 07:46:21 NoraEG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:46:47 LoriOl: it says this is edible?! :(
2007.07.23 07:46:48 NoraEG joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:46:52 ChristineQ: As well as a take home experiment that the students can do with parrents
2007.07.23 07:47:06 ChristineQ: You can eat it.
2007.07.23 07:47:09 DanikaB: lori, that's what i was thinking too... oil and milk doesn't seem so edible to me
2007.07.23 07:47:10 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 07:47:31 JoseJC: I'd be pretty hesitant to drink milk and oil and food coloring mixed together tbh
2007.07.23 07:47:33 LoriOl: exactly!! :)
2007.07.23 07:47:41 ChristineQ: it might not taste so good, but what better way to the brain than through the stomache
2007.07.23 07:47:43 DanikaB: I could see kids really thinking this was cool.
2007.07.23 07:47:44 ChristineQ: lol
2007.07.23 07:47:48 MariaBa left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 07:47:50 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 07:47:55 ErikaC: I don't know, kids eat everything!!
2007.07.23 07:47:56 JoseJC: maybe if you used RICH CHOCOLATE OVALTINE!!!!
2007.07.23 07:47:58 AidaM: interesting experiments
2007.07.23 07:48:04 JoseJC drools for Olavtine
2007.07.23 07:48:06 JoseJC: er
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2007.07.23 07:48:09 DanikaB: and like to play with their food.
2007.07.23 07:48:10 JoseJC: ovaltine whateva
2007.07.23 07:48:18 ChristineQ: A plus would be that the experiments call for common household items
2007.07.23 07:48:22 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 07:48:30 DanikaB: accessible
2007.07.23 07:48:35 ErikaC: handy
2007.07.23 07:48:38 RicardoT: very
2007.07.23 07:48:43 JoseJC: indeed
2007.07.23 07:48:46 AnaR joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:48:52 ChristineQ: what better way to learn than hand on
2007.07.23 07:49:02 ChristineQ: oops, hands on*
2007.07.23 07:49:04 ErikaC: I am a visual learner
2007.07.23 07:49:07 AidaM: True
2007.07.23 07:49:10 LoriOl: very true...kids need to me entertained
2007.07.23 07:49:15 ChristineQ: likewise ericka
2007.07.23 07:49:20 DanikaB: so the principles are accessibility, hands on learning, and playfulness?
2007.07.23 07:49:36 JoseJC: oh boy you don't know how perfect a segway into my presentation you just did ;_;!
2007.07.23 07:49:37 RicardoT: i think i would even enjoy this
2007.07.23 07:49:50 ChristineQ: its really cool
2007.07.23 07:50:04 JoseJC: but I digress
2007.07.23 07:50:09 DanikaB: that mentos activity, though, seems just a tad on the dangerous side.. or at least very messy side.
2007.07.23 07:50:35 JoseJC: the soda jet is overplayed
2007.07.23 07:50:39 ChristineQ: yeah, that one should probably be done with protective eye wear
2007.07.23 07:50:42 JoseJC: ever since it came out on youtube
2007.07.23 07:50:46 JoseJC: it just doesn't die
2007.07.23 07:50:51 DanikaB laughs at learning with protective eyewear.
2007.07.23 07:51:02 JoseJC: it was even on mythbusters
2007.07.23 07:51:05 ChristineQ: another one that i like is the chewing light
2007.07.23 07:51:11 DanikaB looks to the rest of the class.... is everyone able to follow along with the resource all right?
2007.07.23 07:51:20 JoseJC: yep
2007.07.23 07:51:22 NikkiC: yes
2007.07.23 07:51:27 ChristineQ: all you need is a Wintergreen Lifesaver candy (no other flavor will work).
2007.07.23 07:51:28 ErikaC: ;yes mam
2007.07.23 07:51:28 AissaT: yes
2007.07.23 07:51:29 JoanieP: Yes, jus reading the exper
2007.07.23 07:51:30 JasmineR: yup
2007.07.23 07:51:30 JoseJC: but a chewing light, you say?
2007.07.23 07:51:31 JosephAW: yes
2007.07.23 07:51:31 KristinR: yes
2007.07.23 07:51:32 LoriOl: adult (for effect)....what does that mean?
2007.07.23 07:51:32 MarcosC: yeah
2007.07.23 07:51:36 SandraFl: yes!
2007.07.23 07:51:42 DanikaB: christine, can you paste the link for the chewing light one?
2007.07.23 07:51:42 MirandaR: yup
2007.07.23 07:51:54 BrianG: yea
2007.07.23 07:51:56 AidaM: sort of, I was log off for a while because my computer ...
2007.07.23 07:51:59 ChristineQ: http://madsci.org/experiments/archive/860029125.Ch.html
2007.07.23 07:52:00 DanikaB is glad to see you all following along.
2007.07.23 07:52:02 DanikaB: thanks,
2007.07.23 07:52:11 JoseJC: computers are the devil!
2007.07.23 07:52:21 JoanieP: LOL
2007.07.23 07:52:22 LoriOl: DIABLO!!
2007.07.23 07:52:23 DanikaB: i understand Aida. Sometimes the computer gives us a hard time...
2007.07.23 07:52:50 AidaM: I did get the web site
2007.07.23 07:52:58 ChristineQ: the chewing light would probably be
done better after nap time so all eyes will be adjusted to darkness
2007.07.23 07:53:22 DanikaB: wow.. that's a pretty cool one. i especially like the choking warning!
2007.07.23 07:53:24 DanikaB giggles
2007.07.23 07:53:26 JoseJC: whoa whoa
2007.07.23 07:53:30 JoseJC: I didn't know that
2007.07.23 07:53:35 ChristineQ: it can happen
2007.07.23 07:53:37 JoseJC: triboluminescence?
2007.07.23 07:53:41 ChristineQ: all in the name of science
2007.07.23 07:53:41 RicardoT did it say what grade level these activities are geared toward?
2007.07.23 07:53:45 JoseJC: SCIENCEEEE
2007.07.23 07:53:55 DanikaB: triboluminescence.... i just learned a new word!
2007.07.23 07:53:59 JoseJC: me too!
2007.07.23 07:54:04 JoseJC: sup learning buddy!
2007.07.23 07:54:08 JoseJC hifives Danika
2007.07.23 07:54:12 DanikaB high fives jose
2007.07.23 07:54:14 JoseJC: WOO
2007.07.23 07:54:17 DanikaB laughs
2007.07.23 07:54:27 ChristineQ: Triboluminescence is an optical
phenomenon in which light is generated via the breaking of asymmetrical
bonds in a crystal when that material is scratched, crushed, or rubbed.
2007.07.23 07:54:45 SandraFl: this is so cool! My daughter will
really enjoy this experiment...we buy lifesavers all the time!
2007.07.23 07:54:49 DanikaB: was never good at science, but thinks she never had these kinds of activities.
2007.07.23 07:55:08 DanikaB smiles at sandra. excellent... we are already planning to put our featured resources to work!
2007.07.23 07:55:12 LoriOl: science is awesome!!
2007.07.23 07:55:23 JoseJC: wow, this is cool
2007.07.23 07:55:26 JoanieP: I think I am going to do the Split the Smartie
2007.07.23 07:55:27 ChristineQ: Only Wintergreen Lifesaver candys will work Sandra
2007.07.23 07:55:29 JoseJC: if I may add something in real quick
2007.07.23 07:55:36 JoanieP: Sounds tasty to do
2007.07.23 07:55:40 JoseJC: For example, a diamond may begin to glow
while being rubbed. This occasionally happens to diamonds while a facet
is being ground or the diamond is being sawn during the cutting
process. Diamonds may fluoresce blue or red.
2007.07.23 07:55:45 JoseJC: found that on wikipedia
2007.07.23 07:55:51 JoseJC: I just thought it was pretty cool to add
2007.07.23 07:55:59 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 07:56:01 ChristineQ: thanks
2007.07.23 07:56:17 DanikaB: what is the basic deal with the split the smartie? why is it tasty?
2007.07.23 07:56:23 DanikaB hasn't looked at it.
2007.07.23 07:56:25 JoseJC: a lot of chemicals do the
triboluminescence, not just the candy, but I'd guess the candy would be
a safer alternative to experiment with in the classroom ;x
2007.07.23 07:56:28 ChristineQ: WintOGreen Life Savers work especially
well for creating such sparks, due to the fact that wintergreen oil
(methyl salicylate) is fluorescent and converts ultraviolet light into
blue light. Some Band Aid wrappers also glow bluish-green when
unwrapped swiftly.
2007.07.23 07:56:33 JoseJC: yeah
2007.07.23 07:56:36 JoseJC: I wanna try that now
2007.07.23 07:56:39 JoseJC: to walgreens!
2007.07.23 07:56:44 SandraFl: my daughter is a REAL science girl!
she's constntly tryng new experiments with her daddy cause i am not
very good at science, but this seems easy and fun
2007.07.23 07:56:45 DanikaB: really christine? i had no idea
2007.07.23 07:57:02 DanikaB smiles at sandra... you and she can learn together
2007.07.23 07:57:14 RicardoT: can we try this in class?
2007.07.23 07:57:18 NuviaS joined the room.
2007.07.23 07:57:29 DanikaB: if you bring the lifesavers and a mirror.
2007.07.23 07:57:30 AidaM: I would love to see it in class
2007.07.23 07:57:30 JoanieP: its showing the color on the smartie shell disolving while you add water onto it.
2007.07.23 07:57:38 ChristineQ: and darkness
2007.07.23 07:57:45 RicardoT: awesome!
2007.07.23 07:57:53 DanikaB thinks our classroom gets dark enough for this to work
2007.07.23 07:57:54 JoanieP: I think I am going to do this with my neices and nephews
2007.07.23 07:58:08 RicardoT: me too
2007.07.23 07:58:35 DanikaB likes the fact that the experiments require
reading and following directions.. that demonstrates the usefulness of
literacy
2007.07.23 07:58:48 SylviaMe: I am going to show this to my 11 yr. old daughter she'll love this stuff!!
2007.07.23 07:59:04 DanikaB smiles at sylvia and Joanie
2007.07.23 07:59:20 SylviaMe: she won't be so boored!!!
2007.07.23 07:59:35 ChristineQ: I'm glad everyone is interested, I was afraid it would flop
2007.07.23 07:59:46 DanikaB: Christine, I think you have provided us
with a very successful and useful teaching resource. Not only does it
seem like a useful resource for class activities, but as we can see,
people can use it for outside of class learning
2007.07.23 08:00:02 DanikaB claps for Christing
2007.07.23 08:00:05 DanikaB errrrs
2007.07.23 08:00:11 ChristineQ: yayyyyy
2007.07.23 08:00:12 JasmineR claps
2007.07.23 08:00:13 DanikaB: sorry for mispelling your name
2007.07.23 08:00:15 LizaR: yea
2007.07.23 08:00:20 JosephAW claps
2007.07.23 08:00:22 SylviaMe claps too
2007.07.23 08:00:23 ChristineQ: the g gives it character
2007.07.23 08:00:26 AissaT: claps
2007.07.23 08:00:27 KristinR: claps
2007.07.23 08:00:27 DanikaB grin
2007.07.23 08:00:40 AidaM claps
2007.07.23 08:00:44 NuviaS: claps
2007.07.23 08:00:48 ErikaC: thank you
2007.07.23 08:00:50 ChristineQ: thanks
2007.07.23 08:01:00 SandraFl: this was really awesome! I'll have
something COOL to do with my daughter! This time maybe we can
leave DADDY out for a change!
2007.07.23 08:01:05 ChristineQ smiles
2007.07.23 08:01:07 JoseJC me throws a bouquet of roses and demands a
standing ovation while conducting the orchestra in a majestic rendition
of the oscar theme song
2007.07.23 08:01:12 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:01:18 JoanieP left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:01:21 JoseJC: I couldn't think of another song ;_;
2007.07.23 08:01:22 DanikaB: does anyone have any questions for christine?
2007.07.23 08:01:25 JoseJC: yes
2007.07.23 08:01:28 JoseJC: I had one small one
2007.07.23 08:01:33 ChristineQ: shoot
2007.07.23 08:01:37 DanikaB giggles
2007.07.23 08:01:42 NoraEG: good job
2007.07.23 08:01:43 JoseJC: what does the cat's meow have anything to do with swirling colors in milk ;_;
2007.07.23 08:01:49 JasmineR: i have one
2007.07.23 08:01:59 ChristineQ: This is caused because milk is mostly
water and some fat. The oil is only soluble in the fat. The oil creates
a current which causes the colors to circulate mix.
2007.07.23 08:02:07 JoseJC: er right
2007.07.23 08:02:08 JoseJC: but
2007.07.23 08:02:13 JoseJC: why did they call it a meow :(
2007.07.23 08:02:22 ChristineQ: cuz cats like it
2007.07.23 08:02:24 ChristineQ: lol
2007.07.23 08:02:31 JoseJC O ANIMAL CRUELTY
2007.07.23 08:02:34 JoseJC: ugh
2007.07.23 08:02:37 JoseJC: stupid thing
2007.07.23 08:02:40 AlexandrMB joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:02:51 DanikaB: jasmine, you had a question, right.
2007.07.23 08:02:53 SylviaMe: cats drink milk
2007.07.23 08:03:09 SylviaMe: that's why
2007.07.23 08:03:11 ChristineQ: a little food coloring wont hurt
2007.07.23 08:03:19 RicardoT: hehe cute
2007.07.23 08:03:20 JasmineR: yes, i wanted to ask christine why she choose chemestry as her topic
2007.07.23 08:03:23 JoseJC: well that showed me
2007.07.23 08:03:26 SandraFl: remember this is for children, maybe the title is used to catch their attention...
2007.07.23 08:03:30 JasmineR: does she plan to be a science teacher?
2007.07.23 08:03:33 JoseJC leaves with head hanging in shame
2007.07.23 08:03:34 NuviaS: that would look nice, food coloring
2007.07.23 08:03:39 ChristineQ: not a science teacher
2007.07.23 08:04:09 ChristineQ: I just thought that when I was in
chemistry I listened more to the teacher when we did cool stuff like
this than to boring lectures
2007.07.23 08:04:11 ErikaC: well, I think u would be good at it
2007.07.23 08:04:26 JasmineR: true
2007.07.23 08:04:32 ChristineQ: thanks ericka
2007.07.23 08:04:42 JoseJC: let's get some dance music up in here
2007.07.23 08:04:45 JoseJC bumps along
2007.07.23 08:04:56 JoseJC: er sorry
2007.07.23 08:04:57 ChristineQ: great job guys, super participation
2007.07.23 08:05:12 ChristineQ claps for class
2007.07.23 08:05:20 JoseJC claps for Christine!
2007.07.23 08:05:25 ErikaC asks for smiley sticker
2007.07.23 08:05:27 DanikaB: thanks for going firsth Christine. nice job
2007.07.23 08:05:30 KevinMG joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:05:33 JoseJC: I want a gold star!
2007.07.23 08:05:42 RicardoT: gold star for everyone
2007.07.23 08:05:44 DanikaB: okay, so, jose or joseph? who would like to go next?
2007.07.23 08:05:44 AdrianB joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:05:45 JoseJC: WOO
2007.07.23 08:05:47 SandraFl laughs...
2007.07.23 08:05:48 JoseJC: wait you're not the teacher
2007.07.23 08:05:48 ChristineQ passes out cold stars to all
2007.07.23 08:05:58 ChristineQ: very cold stars
2007.07.23 08:06:02 DanikaB: shivers with her cold stars
2007.07.23 08:06:02 ChristineQ: lol
2007.07.23 08:06:06 JoseJC: I'll go if Joseph doesn't want to
2007.07.23 08:06:16 JoseJC: well
2007.07.23 08:06:17 JosephAW: Go ahead
2007.07.23 08:06:20 JoseJC: I guess that goes without saying
2007.07.23 08:06:23 JoseJC: okay so!
2007.07.23 08:06:33 ElizabetCh left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:06:38 DanikaB: good deal... then, jose's link is under the discussion. let's pay attention to jose now!
2007.07.23 08:06:46 JoseJC: in keeping with what we have learned with trying to use technology in the classroom and everything
2007.07.23 08:06:52 JoseJC: I was thinking
2007.07.23 08:06:52 JoseJC: well
2007.07.23 08:07:16 JoseJC: what's one of the most important
technological advances we've had in the past decades? computers right?
and what came about because of computers?
2007.07.23 08:07:22 JoseJC: delicious video games, that's what
2007.07.23 08:07:36 JoseJC: so I thought to myself that's something fun to do
2007.07.23 08:07:38 JoseJC: and I found this
2007.07.23 08:07:42 JoanieP joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:07:44 JoseJC:
http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=7232&FullBreadCrumb=%3Ca+href%3D%22%2Fbrowse%2Fsearch.jsp%3Fquery%3Dvideo+games%26c1%3DCONTENT30%26c17%3D7%26c2%3Dfalse%22%3EAll+Results+%3C%2Fa%3E
2007.07.23 08:07:50 JoseJC: er I know it's a little lenghty
2007.07.23 08:08:00 JoseJC: but I put in a TinyURL in my thread as well
2007.07.23 08:08:17 JoseJC: http://tinyurl.com/3437kl
2007.07.23 08:08:19 AdrianB left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:08:19 AdrianB joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:08:25 SandraFl: Is this site posted on the teaching resources as well?
2007.07.23 08:08:40 JoseJC: yeah I put it in my teacher resources thread
2007.07.23 08:08:40 DanikaB nods at sandra
2007.07.23 08:08:53 ChristineQ: which game would you like us to review?
2007.07.23 08:09:06 JoseJC: I'll probably go through all of them so let's look at the first one
2007.07.23 08:09:11 ChristineQ: k
2007.07.23 08:09:11 SylviaMe: is it about the sims
2007.07.23 08:09:16 JoseJC: yesss
2007.07.23 08:09:19 SylviaMe: k
2007.07.23 08:09:21 ErikaC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:09:36 JoseJC: this teacher lady person, Jessica Rosevear wrote about using video games to teach
2007.07.23 08:09:53 ErikaC joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:10:02 JoseJC: when I saw she uses the sims I was like whoooaaa cause the sims is one of my all time favorite games
2007.07.23 08:10:20 JoseJC: now the main principle in using the sims is interaction
2007.07.23 08:10:33 DanikaB hasn't played it... sounds interesting.
2007.07.23 08:10:34 JoseJC: not only with computer controlled characters, but with other people as well
2007.07.23 08:10:38 JoseJC: oh, it's really fun
2007.07.23 08:10:43 DanikaB: what's the premise/
2007.07.23 08:10:49 JoseJC: you get a little family
2007.07.23 08:10:52 JoseJC: or just yourself
2007.07.23 08:10:52 DanikaB doesn't mean to interrupt
2007.07.23 08:11:01 JoseJC: and you have about 20 thousand dollars
2007.07.23 08:11:04 JoseJC: to start out with
2007.07.23 08:11:12 JoseJC: and you have to get a job, make your house, get a family if you want
2007.07.23 08:11:22 DanikaB hmmms
2007.07.23 08:11:24 JoseJC: all while managing friendships
2007.07.23 08:11:36 JoseJC: because you don't get promoted at your job unless you have a specific number of friends
2007.07.23 08:11:43 JoseJC: and if you're happy
2007.07.23 08:11:54 JoseJC: and the happiness factor comes from how good a home you have
2007.07.23 08:11:58 JoseJC: so it's a viscious cycle
2007.07.23 08:12:20 ChristineQ: i killed my guy cuz he wasn't happy
2007.07.23 08:12:23 DanikaB nods. a simulated "life"
2007.07.23 08:12:25 ErikaC: what grade level would u teach this to?
2007.07.23 08:12:25 ElizabetCh joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:12:28 JoseJC: thus, the sims
2007.07.23 08:12:29 JoseJC: SIM
2007.07.23 08:12:30 JoseJC: s
2007.07.23 08:12:30 DanikaB laughs at christine's comment
2007.07.23 08:12:31 JoseJC: er
2007.07.23 08:12:34 KevinMG: thats crazy
2007.07.23 08:12:40 JoseJC: I'd say upwards of highschool
2007.07.23 08:12:43 JoseJC: 9-12
2007.07.23 08:12:51 JoseJC: cause I don't know if kids would be allowed to play games
2007.07.23 08:12:52 ChristineQ raises hand
2007.07.23 08:12:53 JoseJC: elementary kids
2007.07.23 08:12:54 JoseJC: yes?
2007.07.23 08:13:04 ErikaC: not wit the NCLB
2007.07.23 08:13:07 DanikaB: so the activity has people applying the simulated interaction principles to peer response.
2007.07.23 08:13:11 JoseJC: yes
2007.07.23 08:13:11 ChristineQ: how do you deal with obscene stuff?
2007.07.23 08:13:21 JoseJC: what do you mean
2007.07.23 08:13:22 DanikaB raises eyebrow
2007.07.23 08:13:42 ChristineQ: I know some sims games let the players do nasty things to each other
2007.07.23 08:13:46 JoseJC: what the
2007.07.23 08:13:49 JoseJC: not the first one
2007.07.23 08:13:51 SylviaMe: i thought so too
2007.07.23 08:13:55 JoseJC: you can only kiss and hug and flirt
2007.07.23 08:13:57 KevinMG laughs
2007.07.23 08:13:59 JoseJC: with someone else
2007.07.23 08:14:08 JoseJC: and have a baby but you "adopt" it
2007.07.23 08:14:13 ChristineQ: so we're only talking about the first one?
2007.07.23 08:14:13 DanikaB: maybe there are rated G versions?
2007.07.23 08:14:14 JoseJC: so there's no nasty goings on
2007.07.23 08:14:18 JoseJC: yes
2007.07.23 08:14:22 JoseJC: no expansions
2007.07.23 08:14:25 ChristineQ: okay, got it
2007.07.23 08:14:31 ChristineQ: carry on
2007.07.23 08:14:34 JoseJC: haha
2007.07.23 08:14:34 RicardoT they usually have these games rated for the age of players
2007.07.23 08:14:34 DanikaB: a good thing to be aware of though if you plan to use this game
2007.07.23 08:14:45 AidaM: I think it should specify if it is rated R
2007.07.23 08:14:54 RicardoT they do
2007.07.23 08:14:55 JoseJC: these are not the droids you're looking for... move along
2007.07.23 08:15:06 JoseJC: well
2007.07.23 08:15:21 JoseJC: a quick wikipedia search states
2007.07.23 08:15:26 JoseJC: that the game is rated T for Teen
2007.07.23 08:15:38 JoanieP: with the sims I do not think there is, but
there might be something like the sims that is G versions
2007.07.23 08:15:46 DanikaB thinks jose is addicted to wikipedia
2007.07.23 08:15:55 LoriOl: agrees
2007.07.23 08:15:56 SylviaMe: lol
2007.07.23 08:15:56 ErikaC: as a parent, i don't know that I would be enthusiastic about my child learning this IN SCHOOL!
2007.07.23 08:15:59 RicardoT: yupp
2007.07.23 08:16:21 SandraFl: Hmmm...I would hate for my daughter to do
this at school without my consent...is there a way of blocking and only
enablig what is suitable to the grade level you are teaching?????/
2007.07.23 08:16:26 DanikaB: the use of computer games in education remains a bit controversial
2007.07.23 08:16:40 AndreaZ joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:16:41 AnaR: yes i agree
2007.07.23 08:16:49 JoseJC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:16:49 JoseJC joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:16:50 ChristineQ: its learning how to interact with their
peers that they learn through this alternate world
2007.07.23 08:16:51 ErikaC: that and religious factors
2007.07.23 08:17:03 AnaR: what will the student learn from this
2007.07.23 08:17:05 JoseJC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:17:15 LoriOl: relisous factors? such as....
2007.07.23 08:17:18 DanikaB: jose is having some connection trouble it looks like.
2007.07.23 08:17:19 JoseJC joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:17:20 ErikaC: I just don't think shools is the adequate place for this
2007.07.23 08:17:26 DanikaB smiles at jose
2007.07.23 08:17:28 AidaM: Well, teachers need to look at the resource
before they can even show things to students because they can get in
trouble.
2007.07.23 08:17:28 JoseJC: er sorry about that
2007.07.23 08:17:32 DanikaB: connection get a little unstable?
2007.07.23 08:17:34 RicardoT raises hand, my old school had computer games for us to play
2007.07.23 08:17:42 JoseJC: no, my brother kinda kicked the modem power supply off
2007.07.23 08:17:42 ErikaC: If parents consent on video games, they will buy it themselves
2007.07.23 08:17:45 JoseJC: by "accident"
2007.07.23 08:17:47 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:17:49 JoseJC: I hate him ;_;
2007.07.23 08:17:54 JosephAW: In will say that the coordination skills
helped my little brother with his current job. He drives heavy
machinery.
2007.07.23 08:18:09 ErikaC: hate him...talk about friendly!
2007.07.23 08:18:10 DanikaB nods at joseph
2007.07.23 08:18:10 JosephAW: He got those from games
2007.07.23 08:18:17 JoseJC: yes, absol;utely
2007.07.23 08:18:22 DanikaB: Jose, does the article link you provided discuss some of these issues?
2007.07.23 08:18:25 JoseJC: that's what I'm getting at with the second link I posted
2007.07.23 08:18:28 JoseJC: yessssssss
2007.07.23 08:18:30 SylviaMe: hate is a harsh word
2007.07.23 08:18:31 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:18:33 LuciaG joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:18:44 JoseJC: the PDF is an entire article about how video games can structure learning
2007.07.23 08:18:51 ChristineQ: jose needs breathing room
2007.07.23 08:19:03 JoseJC: it's really very interesting
2007.07.23 08:19:10 JoseJC: no worries, I can type and think super fast
2007.07.23 08:19:21 JoseJC: and by fast I mean gimme like a minute to formulate my responce
2007.07.23 08:19:28 JoseJC: er response
2007.07.23 08:19:50 DanikaB suggests no one worry too much about
spelling unless it is impossible to figure out what you meant to say
2007.07.23 08:19:52 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:20:00 ChristineQ: this would be great for those students who play more video games than they do homework
2007.07.23 08:20:06 JoseJC: I'm nitpicky like that ;_;
2007.07.23 08:20:09 JoseJC: haha
2007.07.23 08:20:12 JoseJC: I'm guilty of that
2007.07.23 08:20:14 JoseJC 3
2007.07.23 08:20:16 JoseJC: ff
2007.07.23 08:20:20 JoseJC: =3
2007.07.23 08:20:24 JoseJC: yeah that one works
2007.07.23 08:20:30 AnaR: it is something different for the student
2007.07.23 08:20:38 ChristineQ: teaching them how to interact with others is great
2007.07.23 08:20:43 JoseJC: you'd be surprised how well video games can teach
2007.07.23 08:20:44 DanikaB: The article is pretty interesting. Jose, can you give us some of the main points in the article?
2007.07.23 08:20:50 ErikaC: I don't know, I much rather have my daughter do something else
2007.07.23 08:20:55 ErikaC: although it sound fun!
2007.07.23 08:21:01 LoriOl: i think everyone heard the word video
games....and became very critical....video games do teach you a lot
2007.07.23 08:21:08 ErikaC: I would rather monitor those video games
2007.07.23 08:21:13 JoseJC: well it mostly states how being ahead in
the interactive industry can help shape the future of this country
2007.07.23 08:21:30 ErikaC: wikepedia?
2007.07.23 08:21:36 LoriOl: lol
2007.07.23 08:21:40 JoseJC: yeah, it's all about monitoring what you play and what you have kids play
2007.07.23 08:21:48 JoseJC: games can be a powerful learning tool, if used the right way
2007.07.23 08:21:49 ErikaC nods
2007.07.23 08:21:51 DanikaB: no erika, jose has provided a link to a related article...
2007.07.23 08:21:52 SandraFl: My daughter doesn't play video games at
all... I don't know how wrong I am, but I think that this would be very
difficult for some parents...I like to be advised/notified of what she
is up to at school...I'd like to think we do have some control over
what our children do and discover while learning...
2007.07.23 08:22:15 KevinMG: i agree jose
2007.07.23 08:22:19 ErikaC: part of pedogogy
2007.07.23 08:22:31 RicardoT: yes
2007.07.23 08:22:36 AnaR: defenitly for secondary
2007.07.23 08:22:45 JoanieP left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:22:45 LuciaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:22:52 JosephAW: I think that goes with educating the parents of your teaching philosophies and strategies.
2007.07.23 08:22:58 ErikaC b right back
2007.07.23 08:23:01 DanikaB finds it interesting that there is concern
about computer games... is there the same concern about board games, in
class activities, readings, etc? channel one television in classrooms?
or do computer games have some elements that make them more
controversial?
2007.07.23 08:23:22 JoseJC: I'd say it's because of "violent" games that have come out
2007.07.23 08:23:26 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 08:23:29 JoseJC: case in point: grand theft auto
2007.07.23 08:23:29 LoriOl: i agree
2007.07.23 08:23:34 JosephAW: Parents tend to fear the unknown...as we all do.
2007.07.23 08:23:38 JoseJC: I love that game, but a lot of people don't
2007.07.23 08:23:40 JoseJC: EXACTLY
2007.07.23 08:23:42 JoseJC: they hate games
2007.07.23 08:23:45 JoseJC: cause they don't play them
2007.07.23 08:23:45 DanikaB: I think that's a good point, joseph
2007.07.23 08:24:03 SandraFl: Did you figure out if you would be able
to disable some of the games in order to make sure the students would
not go into some of the more "adult" stuff?
2007.07.23 08:24:06 JoseJC: if people KNEW what they were talking about
before they started bashing on them no one would be ignorant
2007.07.23 08:24:15 LoriOl: games not only make you think about what to do next
2007.07.23 08:24:18 JoseJC: er
2007.07.23 08:24:19 AidaM: well I feel that everything should be monitored for all kids, because now a days ....
2007.07.23 08:24:24 LoriOl: but also teaches hand eye coordination
2007.07.23 08:24:30 JoseJC: well you have to choose games that don't have any adult stuff to begin with
2007.07.23 08:24:32 JoseJC: yeah
2007.07.23 08:24:33 DanikaB: sandra, i think the answer would be to choose games appropriately rated.
2007.07.23 08:24:34 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 08:24:44 JoseJC: Lori that's perfect
2007.07.23 08:24:49 JoseJC: has anyone heard of DDR?
2007.07.23 08:24:53 LizaR: n
2007.07.23 08:24:56 ElizabetCh: no
2007.07.23 08:24:56 RicardoT: funn game
2007.07.23 08:24:58 JoseJC: very fun
2007.07.23 08:24:59 NoraEG: no
2007.07.23 08:25:00 KevinMG: yes thats a good workout
2007.07.23 08:25:07 MarcosC: yup
2007.07.23 08:25:07 ChristineQ: dance dance revolution
2007.07.23 08:25:10 DanikaB: Jose and others interested in this issue..
i would recommend an interesting book by Ken McAllister--- Game Work:
Language, Power, adn Computer Game Cutlure
2007.07.23 08:25:10 JoseJC: dance dance revolution is a video game where you step on a directional pad
2007.07.23 08:25:12 LizaR: oic
2007.07.23 08:25:14 LoriOl: addictiong
2007.07.23 08:25:19 GregMar left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:25:20 RicardoT: should that be used for P.E..?
2007.07.23 08:25:24 JoseJC: according to the steps
2007.07.23 08:25:24 JoseJC: yteah
2007.07.23 08:25:25 JoseJC: buyt
2007.07.23 08:25:26 DanikaB: i see people playing that and it looks amazing
2007.07.23 08:25:32 JoseJC: the point is it's a very useful tool
2007.07.23 08:25:36 KevinMG: kinda like guitar hero but i like guitar hero better
2007.07.23 08:25:37 JoseJC: you're teaching people coordination
2007.07.23 08:25:38 JoseJC: MUSIC
2007.07.23 08:25:41 JoseJC: timing
2007.07.23 08:25:44 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 08:25:46 JoseJC: as well as excercise
2007.07.23 08:25:49 LoriOl: yes
2007.07.23 08:25:50 DanikaB: physical activity
2007.07.23 08:25:53 JoseJC: it's an excellent aerobic workout
2007.07.23 08:25:55 ChristineQ: very true
2007.07.23 08:26:04 RicardoT: i never thought of using that at school
2007.07.23 08:26:08 JoseJC: or is it anaerobic hmm
2007.07.23 08:26:16 AnaR: i love guitar hero
2007.07.23 08:26:25 DanikaB shrugs... what is this word, "exercise"...
2007.07.23 08:26:27 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:26:28 JoseJC: yeah we have guitar hero 2, its awesome
2007.07.23 08:26:30 LoriOl: guitar hero is awesome
2007.07.23 08:26:33 ElizabetCh: good for kids that are addicted to video games,at least they can get some excercisw
2007.07.23 08:26:35 JoseJC: Danika where do you see people play DDR though :o
2007.07.23 08:26:46 JoseJC: I was interested in this comment :3
2007.07.23 08:26:52 KevinMG: yea it gives my hand a workout. and I like to pretend im a rockstar
2007.07.23 08:26:54 DanikaB: I saw it a couple times at an arcade
2007.07.23 08:27:00 JoseJC: arcade you say
2007.07.23 08:27:04 JoseJC: haha
2007.07.23 08:27:05 DanikaB: I think I was going miniature golfing or something
2007.07.23 08:27:09 DanikaB: i was babysitting
2007.07.23 08:27:11 JoseJC: don't worry I'm not poking fun at you
2007.07.23 08:27:12 JoseJC: oh oh ok
2007.07.23 08:27:14 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:27:28 LoriOl ))
2007.07.23 08:27:29 DanikaB is hip
2007.07.23 08:27:34 JoseJC: yeah that's what I was thinking
2007.07.23 08:27:35 DanikaB laughs at herself
2007.07.23 08:27:35 RicardoT: heck yes
2007.07.23 08:27:41 JoseJC: professors at arcades? excellent!
2007.07.23 08:28:01 KevinMG: simply marvelous
2007.07.23 08:28:22 DanikaB: that book i mentioned, was written by a
friend of mine. i helped him a bit with the research at times. i was
really interested in this game that had revolution as it's premise.
2007.07.23 08:28:34 JoseJC: revolution you say
2007.07.23 08:28:36 DanikaB: so we used to meet and play these games to analyze them.
2007.07.23 08:28:49 DanikaB: yeah, i can't remember the title at the moment... something with Red
2007.07.23 08:29:00 DanikaB: it was a first person shooter
2007.07.23 08:29:00 JoseJC: hmm yeah I've heard of it
2007.07.23 08:29:03 JoseJC: Red Steel?
2007.07.23 08:29:09 JoseJC: the Wii game?
2007.07.23 08:29:10 DanikaB: no, that's not it.
2007.07.23 08:29:11 LoriOl: research....great cover!! :)
2007.07.23 08:29:11 JoseJC: oh
2007.07.23 08:29:23 DanikaB: no, it's from awhile ago (5 years at least)
2007.07.23 08:29:25 KevinMG: code red
2007.07.23 08:29:35 DanikaB shakes head... don't think so
2007.07.23 08:29:42 JoseJC: The Red Star?
2007.07.23 08:29:50 JoseJC: oh 5 years ago hmm
2007.07.23 08:29:52 DanikaB: anyway, didn't mean to get you off track. i'll think of it sometime
2007.07.23 08:30:18 DanikaB: does the class think that it would be good
to discuss the reading that Jose offered at a future class meeting?
2007.07.23 08:30:21 JoseJC: RED FACTION
2007.07.23 08:30:25 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 08:30:26 JoseJC: oh sorry
2007.07.23 08:30:30 DanikaB: yup yup. that was it
2007.07.23 08:30:51 AidaM: yes, i think it will be interesting
2007.07.23 08:30:57 JoseJC: the article is amazing I think
2007.07.23 08:30:59 DanikaB smiles at Lori's comment about our activities
2007.07.23 08:30:59 MarcosC: sure why not
2007.07.23 08:31:02 KristinR: sure
2007.07.23 08:31:02 AnaR: sure
2007.07.23 08:31:03 JoseJC: it goes through EVERYTHING
2007.07.23 08:31:10 NoraEG: yes
2007.07.23 08:31:11 DanikaB: Okay, well, how about we read it for tomorrow?
2007.07.23 08:31:15 JoseJC: games are used at training
2007.07.23 08:31:17 JoseJC: *as
2007.07.23 08:31:18 NuviaS: yes
2007.07.23 08:31:21 JoseJC: for the army even
2007.07.23 08:31:21 DanikaB: but you also have another reading that i posted on the white board.
2007.07.23 08:31:24 JoseJC: oh
2007.07.23 08:31:28 JasmineR: yes its an interesting topic to discuss
2007.07.23 08:31:30 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:31:41 DanikaB: try to read them both and we'll discuss them in class....
2007.07.23 08:31:47 JoseJC: it's kinda long, but it's a good read
2007.07.23 08:31:51 JoseJC: if anyone needs the link to it again
2007.07.23 08:31:52 DanikaB: is there other stuff you'd like to cover, Jose?
2007.07.23 08:31:55 JoseJC: http://www.fas.org/gamesummit/Resources/Summit%20on%20Educational%20Games.pdf
2007.07.23 08:32:00 JoseJC: nah that was basically it
2007.07.23 08:32:06 JoseJC: games can be very useful in teaching
2007.07.23 08:32:11 DanikaB: does anyone have any questions for jose?
2007.07.23 08:32:19 JoseJC: but like everything you have to excercise caution and what not
2007.07.23 08:32:22 ErikaC for Danika
2007.07.23 08:32:27 KevinMG: do you like madden
2007.07.23 08:32:34 JoseJC: also the last link I have has interesting links to gaming news
2007.07.23 08:32:41 JoseJC: no but my brother is obsessed with it
2007.07.23 08:32:47 JoseJC: I'm pretty sure no one can beat him
2007.07.23 08:32:49 DanikaB: yes erika?
2007.07.23 08:32:49 NikkiC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:33:30 ErikaC: Danika, for the professional development
activity, to I just forward the transcrip or include my response
2007.07.23 08:33:59 DanikaB: if no one else has questions for Jose, I'd
like to thank him for leading us in a conversation that brought up
controversy and interesting ideas!
2007.07.23 08:34:10 JoseJC beams!
2007.07.23 08:34:13 ErikaC claps
2007.07.23 08:34:16 DanikaB: erika, you forward the transcript with a summary
2007.07.23 08:34:20 AissaT: claps
2007.07.23 08:34:26 RicardoT: Gold star for jose!
2007.07.23 08:34:28 AidaM: good job
2007.07.23 08:34:28 DanikaB: i mean a summary of what you got out of the activity
2007.07.23 08:34:34 MarcosC claps
2007.07.23 08:34:34 ChristineQ: yay jose
2007.07.23 08:34:35 DanikaB claps for Jose
2007.07.23 08:34:35 NoraEG: good job jose
2007.07.23 08:34:43 NuviaS: yoopi
2007.07.23 08:34:58 DanikaB: well done. now we have seen two very
different resources, but both emphasize interaction and active learning.
2007.07.23 08:35:18 DanikaB: Joseph has provided us some links and a file.
2007.07.23 08:35:32 SandraFl: Jose, I didn't mean to sound negetive,
old-fashioned or "ignorant" I think the research you've done is
great and it would be good for us to read up on it further!
Perhaps this would be a great teaching tool! I would have never
thought of it! N-E-WAY, good job!
2007.07.23 08:35:33 DanikaB: so, if you could all find those on the tapped in screen, we'll let Joseph take it away!
2007.07.23 08:35:46 JosephAW: Shall I go?
2007.07.23 08:35:49 DanikaB smiles at sandra....
2007.07.23 08:35:58 JoseJC: oh please don't think that I was calling you ignorant in anyway shape or form :O!
2007.07.23 08:35:59 DanikaB: controversy is important
2007.07.23 08:36:04 JoseJC: I'm justs aying
2007.07.23 08:36:15 JoseJC: those militant parent groups that file lawsuits and everything
2007.07.23 08:36:15 DanikaB: Joseph, let's give it one more minute.
2007.07.23 08:36:24 JoseJC: against companies
2007.07.23 08:36:35 JoseJC: that have absolutely no liability for what people do
2007.07.23 08:36:41 JoseJC: THEY are the ignorant ones
2007.07.23 08:36:41 JosephAW: My resources are in the discussion thread and my document is currently featured (Time Lyrics).
2007.07.23 08:36:58 JoseJC: but we'll leave this for another day ;_;! sorry joseph
2007.07.23 08:37:06 KevinMG: oooh pink floyd nice nice.
2007.07.23 08:37:19 DanikaB: everyone take a second and get the resources and document up to refer to
2007.07.23 08:37:19 RicardoT: very
2007.07.23 08:37:21 SandraFl: Don't worry, I am not easily
offended...I'm not too caught up with technology that's all...I do hope
my daughter gets the best of it thats why I'd like to learn about this
more...its cool
2007.07.23 08:37:41 AndreaZ left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:37:53 DanikaB: jose and sandra, this will be a conversation we will definitely want to pursue!
2007.07.23 08:38:06 DanikaB smiles and looks forward to the continuing discussion in class.
2007.07.23 08:38:28 AnaR: perhaps in class tomorrow
2007.07.23 08:38:47 DanikaB nods.
2007.07.23 08:38:51 KevinMG: responses are due tomorrow right
2007.07.23 08:38:53 DanikaB: is everyone ready for Joseph to start?
2007.07.23 08:38:58 KristinR: yes
2007.07.23 08:38:58 SylviaMe: yes
2007.07.23 08:38:59 LizaR: y
2007.07.23 08:39:00 DanikaB nods at kevin
2007.07.23 08:39:02 ElizabetCh: yes
2007.07.23 08:39:10 JosephAW: Here I go.
2007.07.23 08:39:10 SandraFl: yeap
2007.07.23 08:39:11 BrianG: yes
2007.07.23 08:39:18 DanikaB listens to Joseph
2007.07.23 08:39:22 JosephAW: I am presenting a teaching resource that
has been used by my wife, a high school English teacher for the past
five years. It is from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum
(http://www.rockhall.com/). Take a moment to pull it up if you
have not already.
2007.07.23 08:39:52 JosephAW: Whilst the site promotes all kinds of
events which students and teachers can attend at the Hall, there is
also an extensive online resource.
2007.07.23 08:40:06 RuthM joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:40:23 JosephAW: The program is called Teachers Rock and
is maintained by Education Programs Manager and former public school
teacher Susan Oehler.
2007.07.23 08:40:38 AlexandrMB left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:40:50 AlexandrMB joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:40:52 JosephAW: The program’s goal is “for
teachers to learn how to use appropriate classroom activities and
methods that integrate rock and roll music, from its roots to its
current incarnations.”
2007.07.23 08:40:53 DanikaB: http://www.rockhall.com/teacher/teachers-rock/
2007.07.23 08:41:12 JosephAW: Thank you.
2007.07.23 08:41:17 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:41:25 LizaR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:41:28 JosephAW: There are lesson plans from past training institutes held at the Hall of Fame.
2007.07.23 08:41:39 JosephAW: Lesson Plans: http://www.rockhall.com/teacher/sti-lesson-plans/
2007.07.23 08:42:03 JosephAW: This resource can be used by different
classes and different grade levels. It provides an interesting
and entertaining way for students to be introduced to skills and social
topics.
2007.07.23 08:42:08 BjB joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:42:25 JosephAW: In addition, it is a break from the traditional approach to curriculum.
2007.07.23 08:42:25 BjB sits quietly in the back of the room and just listens
2007.07.23 08:42:29 DanikaB smiles and welcomes BJ
2007.07.23 08:42:44 JosephAW: Therefore, it is more likely to maintain
the students’ attentions and increase knowledge retention.
2007.07.23 08:42:58 AidaM waves as BJ
2007.07.23 08:43:01 JosephAW: Some educators may see it as a drawback
that music and lyrics are not provided within the resources.
2007.07.23 08:43:16 JosephAW: This is due to legal ramification of distributing licensed material over the internet.
2007.07.23 08:43:22 JovanaG joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:43:30 JosephAW: Also, teachers must also be aware that not all lessons are appropriate for all grade levels.
2007.07.23 08:43:40 JosephAW: As such, the lessons provided suggest the
grade level for the material in addition to the subject in which the
lesson can be applied.
2007.07.23 08:44:00 JosephAW: The applications of the lesson plans are simply laid out.
2007.07.23 08:44:13 ErikaC likes ur learning aproach
2007.07.23 08:44:15 RuthM left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:44:16 RuthM joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:44:23 JosephAW: Thanks
2007.07.23 08:44:28 JosephAW: Each lesson plan presents Rationale,
Objectives, Materials, Time Frame (how long the lesson will take),
Suggested Audience, Procedures (step by step instructions), and
Evaluation.
2007.07.23 08:44:39 DanikaB: does your wife use one specifically with success (as an example)?
2007.07.23 08:45:31 JosephAW: She uses her own version. She
presents NIN's Hurt and Cash's version side by side to demontrate tone.
2007.07.23 08:45:42 RuthM left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:45:42 DanikaB nods
2007.07.23 08:45:44 DanikaB: excellent
2007.07.23 08:45:51 KristinR: nice
2007.07.23 08:45:56 RuthM joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:46:03 JosephAW: It is easy to use.
2007.07.23 08:46:19 SandraFl: Interesting! What grade level did you say she teaches?
2007.07.23 08:46:32 JosephAW: Here is an example of a lesson.
2007.07.23 08:46:38 JosephAW: STI Lesson 6 - Pink Floyd and the Carpe Diem Theme: http://www.rockhall.com/teacher/sti-lesson-6/
2007.07.23 08:46:51 JosephAW: Take a moment to go to the File in the
Brown4325Classroom. Download “Time Lyrics.doc.”
You may already be familiar with the song, please read through the
lyrics anyway.
2007.07.23 08:46:57 JovanaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:46:57 JovanaG joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:47:00 JovanaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:47:02 JosephAW: Unfortunately I cannot provide you with
the music. Just try to hear it in your head as you rock out to
yourself.
2007.07.23 08:47:21 JoseJC: or I could set my playlist to it since I have it ooo
2007.07.23 08:47:31 JosephAW: Or that.
2007.07.23 08:47:36 JoseJC: not that I downloaded it illegaly, of course
2007.07.23 08:47:41 DanikaB laughs
2007.07.23 08:47:52 JoseJC shifts his eyes
2007.07.23 08:47:56 ErikaC: cool!!
2007.07.23 08:48:01 JosephAW: As you read through the procedures,
2007.07.23 08:48:04 RicardoT: i like this
2007.07.23 08:48:08 JosephAW: notice that although this is a lesson on the Carpe Diem theme,
2007.07.23 08:48:09 ErikaC: its just like text books, rip off
2007.07.23 08:48:15 ErikaC: sorry
2007.07.23 08:48:24 JosephAW: also demonstrates the craftsman usage of pertinent literary elements
2007.07.23 08:48:41 JosephAW: such as extended metaphors, alliteration, imagery, and internal rhyme.
2007.07.23 08:48:58 JoseJC: mmm clocks ringing
2007.07.23 08:48:58 JosephAW: Is there any questions?
2007.07.23 08:49:01 DanikaB pretends she doesn't here all the discussions of textbook and music use.....
2007.07.23 08:49:02 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:49:03 JoseJC: allusion to timeeee
2007.07.23 08:49:13 ElizabetCh left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:49:19 AnaR: i have seen this in a classroom before it is really cool
2007.07.23 08:49:31 AnaR: students get really into it
2007.07.23 08:49:32 JoseJC: my teacher in 8th grade once used a song
2007.07.23 08:49:39 JoseJC: we were reading adventures of tom sawyer
2007.07.23 08:49:40 DanikaB: I think this is an excellent resource,
Joseph. Thank you so much for the links. Music is a great way to get
kids to engage with literary topics.
2007.07.23 08:49:44 KristinR: interesting lesson
2007.07.23 08:49:47 JoseJC: and she played Rush's Tom Sawyer
2007.07.23 08:49:49 ElizabetCh joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:49:49 JovanaG joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:49:50 KevinMG: this song is cool. I love the guitar solo david gilmore plays in the songs
2007.07.23 08:49:55 JosephAW: He can be used by the letter, or as a springboard as my wife uses it.
2007.07.23 08:50:04 ErikaC thanks everyone for the teaching resources!!
2007.07.23 08:50:19 DanikaB: by the way, there is a group on tapped in
that discussed using lyrics in education... the archive from that group
can be found....
2007.07.23 08:50:29 ErikaC wishes everyone a great day! good bye
2007.07.23 08:50:29 DanikaB looks at bjb for a little reminder.
2007.07.23 08:50:30 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.23 08:50:35 ErikaC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:50:36 AnaR: i really enjoyed this last presentation
2007.07.23 08:50:37 JoseJC: whoa whoa erika
2007.07.23 08:50:39 BjB: at www.tappedin.org/transcripts
2007.07.23 08:50:40 JoseJC: er never mind
2007.07.23 08:50:45 DanikaB thanks Bj
2007.07.23 08:50:46 BjB: look for Learning From Lyrics
2007.07.23 08:50:46 JoseJC: she's a little quick on the leaving eh ;_;
2007.07.23 08:51:01 DanikaB: so be sure to check that out if you want more on this approach!
2007.07.23 08:51:04 LoriOl: yeah
2007.07.23 08:51:14 NuviaS: yeap'
2007.07.23 08:51:14 DanikaB: Thank you Joseph for an excellent presentation!
2007.07.23 08:51:19 JosephAW: If that is all...
2007.07.23 08:51:25 DanikaB claps for Joseph!
2007.07.23 08:51:26 NoraEG: good job joseph
2007.07.23 08:51:27 RicardoT: this is a great way to learn
2007.07.23 08:51:31 ChristineQ claps for joseph and all brave presenters
2007.07.23 08:51:35 AnaR: GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007.07.23 08:51:37 KristinR: claps!
2007.07.23 08:51:40 RicardoT: 2 gold stars for everyone!
2007.07.23 08:51:41 BjB applauds. Very impressive!
2007.07.23 08:51:43 AidaM: good job
2007.07.23 08:51:51 DanikaB: Okay, remember to read the article that
Jose put up for us and you can get teh "Gere" reading from the link on
the white board here.
2007.07.23 08:51:55 NuviaS: great job
2007.07.23 08:51:59 DanikaB: we'll meet in regular class tomorrow...
2007.07.23 08:52:03 JosephAW: Thanks for your attention and participation
2007.07.23 08:52:10 DanikaB: and don't forget to bring your final drafts of the reading summary response.
2007.07.23 08:52:13 KristinR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:15 AdrianB: yes great job jose.
2007.07.23 08:52:17 LoriOl: ok.....got to get to my nest class....bye everyone
2007.07.23 08:52:18 JoseJC D
2007.07.23 08:52:20 MirandaR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:21 KevinMG: yes mam
2007.07.23 08:52:20 JoseJC: =D
2007.07.23 08:52:20 DanikaB: You all did a great job today!!!!
2007.07.23 08:52:26 AissaT left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:26 JosephAW left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:28 SandraFl left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:33 NuviaS left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:34 LoriOl left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:36 ChristineQ: so long
2007.07.23 08:52:40 RicardoT: this was great
2007.07.23 08:52:41 BrianG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:43 ChristineQ left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:43 AidaM: good by
2007.07.23 08:52:44 BjB heads for Reception
2007.07.23 08:52:44 NoraEG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:45 JasmineR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:52:47 RicardoT: i cant wait to do mine
2007.07.23 08:52:49 MarcosC left the room.
2007.07.23 08:52:51 KristinR joined the room.
2007.07.23 08:53:02 JoseJC: it would be awesome to use GTA in the classroom |:^|a
2007.07.23 08:53:11 RicardoT: no jose
2007.07.23 08:53:15 KristinR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:53:20 JoseJC: yes! :D
2007.07.23 08:53:22 AidaM left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:53:23 RicardoT: nooo
2007.07.23 08:53:26 JoseJC: ok fien
2007.07.23 08:53:27 JoseJC: DDR
2007.07.23 08:53:29 JoseJC: oh man
2007.07.23 08:53:34 JoseJC: I want to go play so baaaaad
2007.07.23 08:53:35 RicardoT: thats better
2007.07.23 08:53:38 JoseJC: I haven't played in months ;_;
2007.07.23 08:53:49 BjB: come to the Tapped In Festival!
2007.07.23 08:53:52 RicardoT: later this week?
2007.07.23 08:53:55 BjB . o O ( theme is playing to learn )
2007.07.23 08:54:03 JoseJC: festival you say?
2007.07.23 08:54:05 DanikaB: I'm going to log off to generate our
transcript. thanks again Jose... all the presentations were great.
2007.07.23 08:54:07 RobertMar left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:54:11 RicardoT: i'll check it out
2007.07.23 08:54:11 JoseJC: no problem :D!
2007.07.23 08:54:15 JoseJC: yeah me too
2007.07.23 08:54:15 AnaR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:54:18 RicardoT: bye everyone
2007.07.23 08:54:19 KevinMG: hey guitar hero face off on the 24
2007.07.23 08:54:21 DanikaB will return in a bit
2007.07.23 08:54:24 JoseJC: where do we see this festival
2007.07.23 08:54:27 DanikaB left the room (signed off).
2007.07.23 08:54:27 Signoff