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2007.07.19 08:53:57 DanikaB joined the room.
2007.07.19 08:54:11 AlexandrMB joined the room.
2007.07.19 08:54:20 DanikaB smiles and says hello to you all
2007.07.19 08:54:35 AlexandrMB: hello :)
2007.07.19 08:54:38 AmeliaIG joined the room.
2007.07.19 08:54:44 VictoriaNG: hello
2007.07.19 08:54:59 AmeliaIG: hi
2007.07.19 08:55:00 SamanthaRG: Hello
2007.07.19 08:55:23 VictoriaNG: this is all very new to me
2007.07.19 08:55:40 DanikaB smiles.
2007.07.19 08:55:47 DanikaB: good! then you'll be learning!
2007.07.19 08:56:27 DanikaB: the earlier class went pretty well. a lot of people
were dreading it, but ended up enjoying it a lot
2007.07.19 08:56:34 DanikaB: or at least that's what they said
2007.07.19 08:57:01 AmeliaIG: thats good, I'm hoping for the same
2007.07.19 08:57:01 VictoriaNG: change is always good
2007.07.19 08:57:35 AlexandrMB: i think so too
2007.07.19 08:58:06 DanikaB: i posted discussion questions that we'll be referring
to throughout the class. we'll wait for a bit till other people join us....
2007.07.19 08:58:16 VictoriaNG: ok
2007.07.19 08:58:25 DanikaB: feel free to review the reading (does everyone
have it?) and consider those questions, or just to practice chatting with each
other.
2007.07.19 08:58:26 AraceliaG joined the room.
2007.07.19 08:58:28 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 08:58:43 DanikaB: i'll be back in a few minutes
2007.07.19 08:58:55 LuciaG joined the room.
2007.07.19 08:59:36 JovanaG joined the room.
2007.07.19 08:59:58 JoseRH joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:00:13 NuviaS joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:00:19 JoseRH: goodmorning class
2007.07.19 09:00:35 LuciaG: morning everyone
2007.07.19 09:00:37 JovanaG: morning
2007.07.19 09:00:45 SamanthaRG: morinin
2007.07.19 09:00:51 VanessaT joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:01:18 NuviaS: Good Morning.
2007.07.19 09:01:19 VanessaCas: good morning
2007.07.19 09:01:23 AaronF joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:01:29 VanessaT: good morning
2007.07.19 09:02:28 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:02:31 XochitlP joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:02:42 EduardoG joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:02:42 JulissaL joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:02:50 AaronF: hello everyone
2007.07.19 09:02:54 VictoriaNG: hi
2007.07.19 09:03:00 JulissaL: hi
2007.07.19 09:03:04 XochitlP: Hello=)
2007.07.19 09:03:17 EduardoG: what's up carolynJC
2007.07.19 09:04:00 JovanaG: so is everyone at home
2007.07.19 09:04:10 JovanaG: cause i'm on campus
2007.07.19 09:04:13 LudivinaV joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:04:13 XochitlP: I am
2007.07.19 09:04:14 NuviaS: no in computer lab
2007.07.19 09:04:19 VanessaT: I am
2007.07.19 09:04:20 AaronF: im at work
2007.07.19 09:04:33 XochitlP: Where do you work?
2007.07.19 09:04:38 AlexandrMB: i am on campus too
2007.07.19 09:04:46 AraceliaG: I am at home under the covers
2007.07.19 09:04:54 CarolynJC: goodmorning
2007.07.19 09:04:56 AaronF: at CLTT
2007.07.19 09:04:56 IrmaalcatG joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:05:00 CarolynJC: yes i am at home
2007.07.19 09:05:03 AlexandrMB: i wish was at home
2007.07.19 09:05:05 AaronF: with webCT
2007.07.19 09:05:16 CarolynJC: eating food
2007.07.19 09:05:18 XochitlP: oh ok
2007.07.19 09:05:25 AnabellR joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:05:26 LourdesR joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:05:39 AlexandrMB: hello Anabell
2007.07.19 09:05:41 DanikaB looks at who all is here....
2007.07.19 09:05:49 DanikaB: we'll give people a few more minutes...
2007.07.19 09:06:08 CatherineZ joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:06:12 XochitlP: sounds good
2007.07.19 09:06:21 EduardoG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 09:06:25 DanikaB: has everyone been able to get and read the article
for today?
2007.07.19 09:06:32 AnabellR: Hi everybody
2007.07.19 09:06:35 CarolynJC: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:36 VanessaCas: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:38 VanessaT: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:39 DanikaB smiles at anabel
2007.07.19 09:06:39 AlexandrMB: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:40 JovanaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:41 LuciaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:44 LourdesR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 09:06:45 DanikaB: good. good
2007.07.19 09:06:49 XochitlP: yes, it was preety interesting
2007.07.19 09:06:52 SamanthaRG: yes
2007.07.19 09:06:54 AlexandrMB: i agree
2007.07.19 09:06:54 JoseRH: no not me
2007.07.19 09:07:00 DanikaB: Jose, why not?
2007.07.19 09:07:14 JoseRH: cant open it
2007.07.19 09:07:21 IrmaalcatG: yes
2007.07.19 09:07:23 XochitlP: i didnt really think of technology bring thaat
impt
2007.07.19 09:07:25 DanikaB: the link doesn't work for you?
2007.07.19 09:07:31 JoseRH: does not give me an option to open it
2007.07.19 09:07:31 AlexandrMB: try it on the course calendar
2007.07.19 09:07:32 XochitlP: i mean being
2007.07.19 09:07:37 AlexandrMB: it has to open
2007.07.19 09:07:44 DanikaB looks puzzled.
2007.07.19 09:07:46 SamanthaRG: try another link
2007.07.19 09:07:52 EduardoG joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:07:55 SamanthaRG: use the course pg link
2007.07.19 09:07:56 DanikaB: when you click on the link, it doesn't go anywhere?
2007.07.19 09:07:58 LuciaG: i open it from the calender
2007.07.19 09:08:09 AlexandrMB: i did too
2007.07.19 09:08:21 AdrianB joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:08:31 SamanthaRG: i had the same problem too. somethings probably
missing from the url
2007.07.19 09:08:36 JoseRH: I got it
2007.07.19 09:08:43 JoseRH: From the course calender
2007.07.19 09:08:46 JoseRH: thanks
2007.07.19 09:08:49 DanikaB: it works fine for me, so i'm not sure what the
deal is.
2007.07.19 09:08:53 NancySal joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:08:57 CatherineZ: works for me too
2007.07.19 09:08:58 AnabellR: what I need to do next, can someone guide me?
2007.07.19 09:09:04 SamanthaRG: http://www.redmonky.net/prof/courses/TI4325.html
2007.07.19 09:09:24 DanikaB: oh, that link is just guidelines you should have
already read.
2007.07.19 09:09:40 AlexandrMB: anabell ur in the classroom just wait until
it begins
2007.07.19 09:09:41 JoseRH: Im sorry
2007.07.19 09:09:42 DanikaB: Anabel, we'll start discussion here soon. mostly,
you just want to follow along with the conversation
2007.07.19 09:09:43 JulissaL: http://www.citejournal.org/vol1/iss1/currentissues/english/article1.htm
2007.07.19 09:09:48 JulissaL: that one?
2007.07.19 09:09:51 AnabellR: Ok.
2007.07.19 09:09:55 DanikaB: and contribute when you feel like it!
2007.07.19 09:09:55 DanikaB 0
2007.07.19 09:09:57 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:10:06 NancySal: Good Morning everyone
2007.07.19 09:10:07 DanikaB: Julissa, yes, that's the reading for today
2007.07.19 09:10:12 JulissaL: thanks
2007.07.19 09:10:18 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:10:22 LudivinaV: good morning everyone
2007.07.19 09:10:26 DanikaB: good morning!
2007.07.19 09:10:30 VictoriaNG: morrnign
2007.07.19 09:10:34 IrmaalcatG: good morning
2007.07.19 09:10:36 AnabellR: thank you, I have a question. the article we are
going to discuss is about technology
2007.07.19 09:10:38 AndreaZ joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:10:43 AlexandrMB: yes
2007.07.19 09:10:43 LuciaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:10:45 VictoriaNG: yes
2007.07.19 09:10:48 XochitlP: Why cant we kust put a smily face when we want
to smile?
2007.07.19 09:10:50 JovanaG: Preparing Tomorrow's English
2007.07.19 09:10:52 NuviaS: yes
2007.07.19 09:11:06 AlexandrMB smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:08 DanikaB: you can
2007.07.19 09:11:13 IrmaalcatG: how?
2007.07.19 09:11:13 VictoriaNG: its a good article
2007.07.19 09:11:21 DanikaB: if you do it like this :)
2007.07.19 09:11:22 XochitlP: oh it seems easier thanks
2007.07.19 09:11:26 DanikaB: it will say
2007.07.19 09:11:27 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:35 JovanaG smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:36 IrmaalcatG: ho ok thanks
2007.07.19 09:11:37 DanikaB: or you can just type it in like that (:
2007.07.19 09:11:39 NuviaS smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:41 GracielaC joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:11:43 JulissaL smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:49 LuciaG smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:56 AraceliaG smiles
2007.07.19 09:11:59 AlexandrMB smiles
2007.07.19 09:12:01 XochitlP: i guess everyone is happy today=)
2007.07.19 09:12:04 SamanthaRG smiling and now face hurts
2007.07.19 09:12:06 VictoriaNG: lol
2007.07.19 09:12:14 VanessaT: lol
2007.07.19 09:12:22 CatherineZ: (:
2007.07.19 09:12:28 AlexandrMB: at least we arent hot today in the classroom
2007.07.19 09:12:35 XochitlP: right
2007.07.19 09:12:39 JulissaL: lol
2007.07.19 09:12:41 LuciaG: i know
2007.07.19 09:12:43 JoseRH: aint that the truth
2007.07.19 09:12:44 AndreaZ smiles
2007.07.19 09:12:44 VanessaCas smiles
2007.07.19 09:13:01 JulissaL frowns
2007.07.19 09:13:07 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:13:07 CarolynJC: amen!
2007.07.19 09:13:10 GracielaC: lol
2007.07.19 09:13:11 JulissaL: lol
2007.07.19 09:13:14 DanikaB: what's a matter Juiissa?
2007.07.19 09:13:16 NuviaS: >
2007.07.19 09:13:22 JulissaL: nothing i just wanted to see if it worked
2007.07.19 09:13:22 XochitlP: how do we detach this thing
2007.07.19 09:13:31 JovanaG: go into actions
2007.07.19 09:13:33 JulissaL: where it says actions
2007.07.19 09:13:34 JovanaG: then detach
2007.07.19 09:13:37 AdrianB: morning class
2007.07.19 09:13:38 SonyaAndrV joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:13:44 AmeliaIG: good morning
2007.07.19 09:13:46 AndreaZ: good morning
2007.07.19 09:13:46 XochitlP: oh ok thanks
2007.07.19 09:13:47 AidaM joined the room.
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2007.07.19 09:13:53 LuciaG: where it says actions select detach
2007.07.19 09:13:53 AnabellR: how can you put expressions like(smile) on line
2007.07.19 09:13:54 NancySal: Hello
2007.07.19 09:14:03 VictoriaNG: i kinda like the whole online class room
2007.07.19 09:14:07 JulissaL: me too
2007.07.19 09:14:09 XochitlP: me too
2007.07.19 09:14:10 AlexandrMB: just do a smiley face but press shify
2007.07.19 09:14:10 JovanaG: didn't we just go through all that
2007.07.19 09:14:11 JulissaL: seems more fun in a way
2007.07.19 09:14:11 AmeliaIG: i LOVE it
2007.07.19 09:14:16 JovanaG: lol
2007.07.19 09:14:17 AlexandrMB: shift
2007.07.19 09:14:22 CatherineZ: me too..except i still have to come to school
for 2 other classes! Boo!
2007.07.19 09:14:23 DanikaB: use a colon and then type what you want to be seen
doing... so, if i put :walks toward the front of the room
2007.07.19 09:14:25 XochitlP: it makes you more comfortable to talk
2007.07.19 09:14:27 DanikaB: it looks like
2007.07.19 09:14:32 DanikaB walks toward the front of the room
2007.07.19 09:14:33 IrmaalcatG: i know
2007.07.19 09:14:35 XochitlP: i guess thats the point
2007.07.19 09:14:41 CatherineZ: those of you who are only taking this class
get to stay in for the day! Luckies! haha\
2007.07.19 09:14:41 JulissaL: yea
2007.07.19 09:14:41 KarinaS joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:14:46 AlexandrMB: u are taking 3 classes !
2007.07.19 09:14:51 XochitlP: just like the article mentions in a way
2007.07.19 09:14:56 CatherineZ: yeah...two are for my blocks
2007.07.19 09:15:08 CatherineZ: its not that bad at all though
2007.07.19 09:15:10 CarolynJC raises hand
2007.07.19 09:15:17 AlexandrMB: umm i see
2007.07.19 09:15:20 CatherineZ: yeah
2007.07.19 09:15:25 RubenB joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:15:30 DanikaB: okay... let's get started.
2007.07.19 09:15:34 CatherineZ: what else are u taking Alex?
2007.07.19 09:15:34 XochitlP: technology makes people communicate in a different
way
2007.07.19 09:15:39 DanikaB: it looks like everyone is here.
2007.07.19 09:15:50 JulissaL: i dont feel as shy
2007.07.19 09:15:51 AlexandrMB: survey to english lit
2007.07.19 09:15:55 DanikaB: excellent Xochitl, that's exactly what we're here
to discuss....
2007.07.19 09:16:01 IrmaalcatG: is that class hard?
2007.07.19 09:16:04 DanikaB: let's turn our attention to the reading for the
day...
2007.07.19 09:16:12 CatherineZ: oh i c...we can talk about it later! i think
we are starting,... (:
2007.07.19 09:16:16 AlexandrMB: alot of reading and it teh prof is going really
fast
2007.07.19 09:16:20 AlexandrMB: the
2007.07.19 09:16:22 DanikaB: Find the single sentence in the article that covers
the main purpose and idea of the article.
2007.07.19 09:16:35 HilarioP joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:16:44 DianaG joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:16:44 EduardoG: The sentence that covers the main idea in my opinion
is... Teachers using technology in their English language arts classrooms are
not only improving their instruction for their students; they are changing the
very nature of that instruction.
2007.07.19 09:16:50 AidalinS joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:16:54 AndreaZ: I agree
2007.07.19 09:16:57 AlexandrMB: on the first page
2007.07.19 09:16:57 DanikaB: if you look through the article, there is one sentence
that pretty well sums up the main argument of the essay.... can you .... okay,
that's the main impetus for the article....
2007.07.19 09:16:59 LuciaG: i agree with eduardo
2007.07.19 09:17:01 AlexandrMB: i agree
2007.07.19 09:17:03 VictoriaNG: i think that the main purpose of this article
is based on teachers of tomorrow, need to be updated with the technology of
today
2007.07.19 09:17:05 AmeliaIG: Yes I agree with EduardoG
2007.07.19 09:17:08 DanikaB: but that's not what the main argument of the article
itself is.
2007.07.19 09:17:15 GracielaC: i agree
2007.07.19 09:17:25 DanikaB: what is the main argument of the article?
2007.07.19 09:17:30 CarolynJC: is it on the second page
2007.07.19 09:17:41 NancySal: I agree with Victoria
2007.07.19 09:17:48 XochitlP: "teaching and learning ELA is our goal; technology
is a means by which we can reach that goal"
2007.07.19 09:17:52 CarolynJC: where it states that teachers need to infuse
pedagogy with content
2007.07.19 09:17:55 AnabellR: I think that the main idea is that teacher need
to prepare better in technology for the benefit of the student and teacher.
2007.07.19 09:18:04 DanikaB: who is the audience for the article?
2007.07.19 09:18:08 NancySal: Teachers have to view technology as a helpful
tool
2007.07.19 09:18:14 AnabellR: teacher
2007.07.19 09:18:14 JovanaG: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:15 VictoriaNG: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:16 JoseRH: for teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:17 SonyaAndrV: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:17 CatherineZ: Educators
2007.07.19 09:18:18 CarolynJC: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:18 DanikaB: are you sure?
2007.07.19 09:18:18 IrmaalcatG: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:19 VanessaCas: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:19 LuciaG: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:21 GracielaC: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:21 JoseRH: yes
2007.07.19 09:18:21 VanessaT: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:21 AlexandrMB: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:21 JulissaL: teachers and teachers in training
2007.07.19 09:18:23 XochitlP: for prospective teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:25 DanikaB: what kind of teachers?
2007.07.19 09:18:28 AnabellR: yes,
2007.07.19 09:18:29 AlexandrMB: english teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:29 VanessaCas: teachers in training as well
2007.07.19 09:18:29 KarinaS: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:30 XochitlP: ela
2007.07.19 09:18:32 CarolynJC: old school teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:34 XochitlP: ELA
2007.07.19 09:18:36 AaronF: teachers instructors
2007.07.19 09:18:36 LourdesR: els
2007.07.19 09:18:36 NancySal: teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:37 SamanthaRG: literacy
2007.07.19 09:18:37 CatherineZ: English teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:38 AmeliaIG: students who are preparing to become teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:39 NuviaS: yes i think that too
2007.07.19 09:18:40 LuciaG: english
2007.07.19 09:18:45 IrmaalcatG: current and next teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:46 AraceliaG: language arts teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:47 AdrianB: that teacher need to better prepare in tech. to
pass it on to the students
2007.07.19 09:18:47 VictoriaNG: all teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:48 VanessaT: english
2007.07.19 09:18:48 DanikaB: is it directed to the teachers in training? or
is it directed to the people training those teachers?
2007.07.19 09:18:49 JoseRH: In general all teachers
2007.07.19 09:18:52 SamanthaRG: but this would apply to other disciplines
2007.07.19 09:19:00 JovanaG: people training those teachers
2007.07.19 09:19:00 CarolynJC: people training teachers
2007.07.19 09:19:00 LudivinaV: English teachers
2007.07.19 09:19:01 AaronF: the people training those teachers
2007.07.19 09:19:03 EduardoG: The sentence that covers the main idea in my opinion
is... Teachers using technology in their English language arts classrooms are
not only improving their instruction for their students; they are changing the
very nature of that instruction.
2007.07.19 09:19:04 DanikaB nods
2007.07.19 09:19:05 IrmaalcatG: i think that both
2007.07.19 09:19:07 SamanthaRG: those training
2007.07.19 09:19:08 AnabellR: to everybody
2007.07.19 09:19:11 AlexandrMB: yes trying to prepare them for their future
career
2007.07.19 09:19:13 CatherineZ: the trainers
2007.07.19 09:19:15 RuthM: teachers in training
2007.07.19 09:19:16 RubenB: to both
2007.07.19 09:19:17 EduardoG: oops..sorry
2007.07.19 09:19:17 AmeliaIG: ppl training those up and coming teachers
2007.07.19 09:19:20 LuciaG: both
2007.07.19 09:19:22 XochitlP: yes actually all teachers but this article is
geared toward ELA teachers
2007.07.19 09:19:23 VanessaCas: people training future educators
2007.07.19 09:19:26 AlexandrMB: even the students
2007.07.19 09:19:27 SamanthaRG: why oops
2007.07.19 09:19:28 DianaG: i belive that both
2007.07.19 09:19:28 VanessaT: teachers in training
2007.07.19 09:19:30 DanikaB: look deeper... that sentence is the context for
why the article is being written, but doesn't cover what they argue.
2007.07.19 09:19:31 AdrianB: to both
2007.07.19 09:19:32 LudivinaV: technology is a support system for the student
and teacher
2007.07.19 09:19:37 EduardoG: because I typed the same idea again.
2007.07.19 09:19:39 NancySal: teachers in training
2007.07.19 09:19:43 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:19:45 DanikaB: that's fine
2007.07.19 09:19:50 CarolynJC: in the article i dont believe they are arguing
2007.07.19 09:20:01 XochitlP: I think they are argueing
2007.07.19 09:20:01 CarolynJC: i belive they are just stating the pros and cons
2007.07.19 09:20:02 EduardoG: why not carolineJC?
2007.07.19 09:20:02 DanikaB: the article is written for ME... as a teacher of
teachers, isn't it?
2007.07.19 09:20:09 AlexandrMB: i think it like giving a discussion
2007.07.19 09:20:10 AaronF: they advocate 7 important strategies for infusing
technology
2007.07.19 09:20:11 AidalinS left the room.
2007.07.19 09:20:12 CatherineZ: correct.
2007.07.19 09:20:12 JovanaG: true
2007.07.19 09:20:14 JoseRH: yes
2007.07.19 09:20:16 DanikaB: you don't think they are trying to get me to do
something?
2007.07.19 09:20:17 IrmaalcatG: yes
2007.07.19 09:20:18 XochitlP: that technonlogy should be a key componet
2007.07.19 09:20:21 XochitlP: in the classroom
2007.07.19 09:20:28 DanikaB: just any old way to use technology?
2007.07.19 09:20:30 AlexandrMB: i agree
2007.07.19 09:20:33 JovanaG: to teach us
2007.07.19 09:20:34 NuviaS: yes
2007.07.19 09:20:35 SamanthaRG: no
2007.07.19 09:20:38 AlexandrMB: that is what the article is about
2007.07.19 09:20:38 CatherineZ: is it to show us as prospective teachers ways
to use technologies to our advantage??
2007.07.19 09:20:38 AaronF: infusing it in the classroom
2007.07.19 09:20:39 LuciaG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:20:40 DanikaB: or some specific things with technology?
2007.07.19 09:20:40 JovanaG: no certain sets
2007.07.19 09:20:41 EduardoG: How do we prepare these kinds of teachers—the
kinds of teachers who know their content (English language arts), know content
pedagogy (how to teach English language arts), and know instructional technology
(how to infuse technology appropriately into that teaching)? I think this idea
is important too.
2007.07.19 09:20:43 DianaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:20:43 LudivinaV: the article is not argueing the point but addressing
the ideas on how to infuse technology with teaching
2007.07.19 09:20:44 SamanthaRG: using it to our advan
2007.07.19 09:20:48 XochitlP: for you to teach us these thingd
2007.07.19 09:20:48 JovanaG: steps
2007.07.19 09:20:54 AndreaZ: maybe to do what WE are doing right now
2007.07.19 09:20:56 XochitlP: stradegies
2007.07.19 09:20:58 AdrianB: guys slow down your to fast for me.
2007.07.19 09:20:59 DanikaB: you're right Eduardo, that's an important sentence..
2007.07.19 09:21:01 DianaG: to help in the future
2007.07.19 09:21:02 AlexandrMB: i agree eddie
2007.07.19 09:21:04 AmeliaIG: use technology to inspire new english literature
teachers to do the same
2007.07.19 09:21:15 IrmaalcatG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:21:16 DanikaB: okay, let's stop for a minute and read the following
statement:
2007.07.19 09:21:20 NuviaS: i agree adrian
2007.07.19 09:21:22 XochitlP: and then for us to use it when we start teaching
2007.07.19 09:21:34 RubenB: Thank you Adrian
2007.07.19 09:21:40 AlexandrMB: it about how to teach along w tech, and learnign
w and along the stidents as u use the tech.
2007.07.19 09:21:45 DanikaB: Using the principles we offer above, we suggest
that English language arts methods classes can infuse technology in a way that
does not interfere with the content pedagogy but supports it in a way that actively
involves students and prepares them with the technical and pedagogical skills
for creating the new learning-centered classroom.
2007.07.19 09:22:11 SamanthaRG hmmm
2007.07.19 09:22:13 DanikaB: notice that this sentence (which is near the end
of the article...
2007.07.19 09:22:14 JovanaG: what page is that on
2007.07.19 09:22:16 NuviaS: wow
2007.07.19 09:22:27 XochitlP: that statement embodies what we are doing right
now
2007.07.19 09:22:42 NuviaS: i agree
2007.07.19 09:22:43 AlexandrMB: above the invitation
2007.07.19 09:22:48 AnabellR: me too.
2007.07.19 09:22:49 AidalinS joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:22:49 DanikaB: tells us that the authors are giving us principles
by which they hope teachers in training methods courses will incorporate technology.
2007.07.19 09:22:50 JovanaG: nevermind it's on page nine
2007.07.19 09:22:53 AlexandrMB: me 2\
2007.07.19 09:22:53 JulissaL: yup
2007.07.19 09:22:54 EduardoG: thanks Dr.
2007.07.19 09:22:58 DanikaB: so...
2007.07.19 09:22:58 NancySal: I agree as well
2007.07.19 09:23:06 DianaG: i agree too
2007.07.19 09:23:08 LudivinaV: right
2007.07.19 09:23:09 XochitlP: yes
2007.07.19 09:23:14 JoseRH: yep
2007.07.19 09:23:20 AdrianB: I agree
2007.07.19 09:23:20 GracielaC: i agree
2007.07.19 09:23:20 RubenB: Is this sentence the one in tne 6th paragraph?
2007.07.19 09:23:25 LuciaG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:23:27 DanikaB: if the article gives us those principles and they
are directed at MY use of technology for your training, we can look at the principles
and see if i have successfully done so.
2007.07.19 09:23:27 AidalinS: i agree as well
2007.07.19 09:23:30 NuviaS: yes
2007.07.19 09:23:32 LourdesR: agree
2007.07.19 09:23:39 AnabellR: yes
2007.07.19 09:23:41 DanikaB: (it's the last sentences before the very end section
2007.07.19 09:23:42 JovanaG: ok
2007.07.19 09:23:43 CatherineZ: it's like we as prosepective teachers need to
be up to date with the technological advances so that we can take advantage
of all the resources....or am i way off?
2007.07.19 09:23:44 SamanthaRG: agree
2007.07.19 09:23:44 AlexandrMB: umm ok
2007.07.19 09:23:47 VanessaT: ok
2007.07.19 09:23:47 AmeliaIG: I have done so
2007.07.19 09:23:56 DanikaB: no, catherine, i think you are right on track.
2007.07.19 09:24:02 CatherineZ: ok good (:
2007.07.19 09:24:08 JulissaL: sounds right
2007.07.19 09:24:18 AidalinS: sounds good to me
2007.07.19 09:24:19 DanikaB: all right, so let's look at one of the principles...
each principle includes an example...
2007.07.19 09:24:20 AlexandrMB: it does
2007.07.19 09:24:33 CatherineZ: ok
2007.07.19 09:24:35 NuviaS: been in this room makes us capable of a higher education
towards technology
2007.07.19 09:24:39 LudivinaV: yes
2007.07.19 09:24:46 LuciaG: agree
2007.07.19 09:24:49 DanikaB: and that's what we've been talking about with pedagogy..
right, there are principles (theories) and then practices (specific things we
do to enact those principles/theories)
2007.07.19 09:24:49 NancySal: I agree with Nuvia
2007.07.19 09:24:51 AdrianB: true
2007.07.19 09:24:51 AlexandrMB: me 2
2007.07.19 09:24:58 IrmaalcatG: yes
2007.07.19 09:25:08 AlexandrMB: we are practicing right now 2
2007.07.19 09:25:13 DanikaB: so, let's see if we can find examples from our
own class' use of technology for some of these principles...
2007.07.19 09:25:17 LourdesR: true
2007.07.19 09:25:18 CatherineZ: tapped in
2007.07.19 09:25:20 DanikaB: good, alexandra, can you explain that.
2007.07.19 09:25:48 CatherineZ: ?? maybe not.
2007.07.19 09:25:55 AlexandrMB: i am writing
2007.07.19 09:25:57 AmeliaIG: with principle 1, you introduced us to tapped
in and showed us how to use it
2007.07.19 09:25:59 DanikaB: no problem....
2007.07.19 09:26:02 CatherineZ: no i meant my answers
2007.07.19 09:26:05 CatherineZ: answer*
2007.07.19 09:26:08 CatherineZ: sorry
2007.07.19 09:26:23 NuviaS: internet availability in classroom to students and
teachers
2007.07.19 09:26:30 EduardoG: provide a wide range of opportunities to use technology
2007.07.19 09:26:31 AlexandrMB: to infuse this tech. we must build on what we
know from research amd practice
2007.07.19 09:26:33 AaronF: or like even webct
2007.07.19 09:26:37 DanikaB: okay, amelia.. the authors say in principle one,
that technology should be integrated with content.. is that how this is working?
or is it just an "add on"
2007.07.19 09:26:43 CatherineZ: Danika, am i on the right track or not?? Im
getting confused! lol
2007.07.19 09:26:55 NuviaS: good answer
2007.07.19 09:27:03 DanikaB: you are doing fine Catherine...
2007.07.19 09:27:04 IrmaalcatG: i agree with nuvia
2007.07.19 09:27:10 CatherineZ: k, thanks
2007.07.19 09:27:11 XochitlP: you introduced a new program to us that none os
us were aware of
2007.07.19 09:27:12 AidalinS: yes that was a great answer
2007.07.19 09:27:13 DanikaB nods at alexandra
2007.07.19 09:27:21 AmeliaIG: well the infusion of content would be the online
presentations
2007.07.19 09:27:23 EduardoG: I agree with XochitlP.
2007.07.19 09:27:29 JoseRH: me two
2007.07.19 09:27:36 DanikaB: okay, Xochitl, and is it integrated with the content
of this course (the teaching of writing)?
2007.07.19 09:27:39 LudivinaV: i feel it's a support system for the student
to learn
2007.07.19 09:27:41 LourdesR: I too agree
2007.07.19 09:27:44 AidalinS: that is a good way
2007.07.19 09:27:45 XochitlP: yes
2007.07.19 09:27:47 DanikaB nods.
2007.07.19 09:27:55 XochitlP: because we are writing to each other
2007.07.19 09:27:55 NuviaS: been able to get together as a class without been
in a classroom, wow
2007.07.19 09:28:03 XochitlP: explaining things to each other
2007.07.19 09:28:06 AndreaZ: the teacher gets direct feedback
2007.07.19 09:28:19 AidaM left the room.
2007.07.19 09:28:22 DanikaB: okay, another part of that principles says that
I am supposed to keep in mind and address the different development levels of
you all in terms of technology. Have I done that? if so how?
2007.07.19 09:28:24 DianaG: and that way most students interact
2007.07.19 09:28:37 VictoriaNG: yep
2007.07.19 09:28:40 XochitlP: ummm
2007.07.19 09:28:43 AraceliaG: we are writing and thinking about the content
at the same time
2007.07.19 09:28:43 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:28:44 AnabellR: yes
2007.07.19 09:28:46 LuciaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:28:49 CatherineZ: there's like an entire discussion occuring through
the use of technology. More discussion happens through chatting than when we
are in the actual classroom! (Apparently) lol
2007.07.19 09:28:50 CarolynJC: by giving us plenty of time to do our assignments
on line
2007.07.19 09:28:52 VanessaCas: yes
2007.07.19 09:28:56 AlexandrMB: u are letting us jump in to figure out these
different levels
2007.07.19 09:29:00 CarolynJC: and walking us through and handout to follow
2007.07.19 09:29:00 IrmaalcatG: yes
2007.07.19 09:29:01 SamanthaRG: i like the earlier point that someone who is
she might feel more freedom to interact this means u would b accommadating a
group of students
2007.07.19 09:29:04 AndreaZ: you have provided instruction in how to use the
program on redmonky.net
2007.07.19 09:29:07 AnabellR: here is more participation
2007.07.19 09:29:10 XochitlP: im notsure
2007.07.19 09:29:11 JoseRH: yea cause some of us are not embarrased
2007.07.19 09:29:16 JovanaG: yes you have by explaining to us and giving examples
of how we can use tappedin
2007.07.19 09:29:19 AidalinS: yes i totally agree
2007.07.19 09:29:21 LourdesR: getting actual communication with a class without
being in the physical classroom
2007.07.19 09:29:22 SonyaAndrV: You also did a little at a time
2007.07.19 09:29:26 RubenB: we are able to express ourselves better by writiing
than by speaking uotloud in the classroom
2007.07.19 09:29:28 LuciaG: this is great way og communicating
2007.07.19 09:29:32 VanessaCas: you provided very detailed instructions on how
to work everything on tapped in
2007.07.19 09:29:32 DanikaB: good. thanks... what we are doing here, then ,
is analyzing my use of the technology based on the principles... excellent
2007.07.19 09:29:45 CatherineZ: some people are more computer or technology
savvy than others so you have to keep that in mind and accomidate everyone
2007.07.19 09:29:49 AlexandrMB: the differnts come ffrom u.. us.. and others
on this program around the world
2007.07.19 09:29:55 XochitlP: true
2007.07.19 09:29:59 DanikaB: Ruben and Samantha and others have pointed out
that there seems to be some distinct differences in how we interact online
2007.07.19 09:30:19 IrmaalcatG: i agree with catherinez
2007.07.19 09:30:19 XochitlP: definetly
2007.07.19 09:30:20 DanikaB: are some of you having a hard time following the
conversations?
2007.07.19 09:30:20 DianaG: yes i agree
2007.07.19 09:30:23 AidalinS: yes but i think it is a good thing
2007.07.19 09:30:23 CatherineZ: so you have a flexibility with your use of technology...as
the instructor.
2007.07.19 09:30:24 AraceliaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:30:26 SonyaAndrV: I am
2007.07.19 09:30:26 AaronF: yup
2007.07.19 09:30:26 AdrianB: true
2007.07.19 09:30:27 VanessaT: yes
2007.07.19 09:30:27 DanikaB nods
2007.07.19 09:30:32 LudivinaV: online we seem to talk more
2007.07.19 09:30:35 XochitlP: i cant type so fast because of long nails=(
2007.07.19 09:30:39 EduardoG: sometimes
2007.07.19 09:30:39 AndreaZ: it's hard to know when to jump in
2007.07.19 09:30:41 JovanaG: a little
2007.07.19 09:30:42 JoseRH: me either
2007.07.19 09:30:42 IrmaalcatG: so,etimes
2007.07.19 09:30:43 DanikaB: because they are much different and more plentiful
than a regular class room, right?
2007.07.19 09:30:43 SonyaAndrV: Im scared to say what i want, because by then
2007.07.19 09:30:45 SamanthaRG smiles
2007.07.19 09:30:47 SonyaAndrV: the convo has already changed
2007.07.19 09:30:47 DanikaB nods at andrea
2007.07.19 09:30:47 CarolynJC: i like class disscussions
2007.07.19 09:30:48 AnabellR: yes it is a little bit fast
2007.07.19 09:30:48 KarinaS: a little
2007.07.19 09:30:48 LourdesR: just a little
2007.07.19 09:30:50 RuthM: a little
2007.07.19 09:30:50 CatherineZ: yes
2007.07.19 09:30:50 DianaG: a liitle bit since im not a fast typer
2007.07.19 09:30:51 AidalinS: yes well in class i realy don't talk much
2007.07.19 09:30:52 NuviaS: and it is more interesting
2007.07.19 09:30:57 SamanthaRG: say it anyway
2007.07.19 09:30:58 AdrianB: slow down
2007.07.19 09:31:00 DanikaB nods at aidalin
2007.07.19 09:31:09 CarolynJC: but its cooler here at home
2007.07.19 09:31:10 XochitlP: ive alwasy liked online classes
2007.07.19 09:31:15 AaronF: we are less shy online
2007.07.19 09:31:15 JulissaL: a bit fast
2007.07.19 09:31:18 AndreaZ: maybe there is less organization
2007.07.19 09:31:18 CatherineZ: technology can allow people to express themselves
2007.07.19 09:31:19 SamanthaRG: just jump in
2007.07.19 09:31:20 AlexandrMB: be vocal we are just talking there is nothing
to be scared of
2007.07.19 09:31:21 JoseRH: I feel like even if I am wrong they dont know my
face and I dont get embarresed
2007.07.19 09:31:22 CatherineZ: like we are doing here
2007.07.19 09:31:22 XochitlP: but only when we discuss alot
2007.07.19 09:31:24 LuciaG: i prefer online
2007.07.19 09:31:27 AaronF: but its a trade off!
2007.07.19 09:31:27 DanikaB: adrian, we can't really slow it down a lot... part
of what will happen here is that some of you will feel like you didn't catch
everything...
2007.07.19 09:31:31 JovanaG: but in a classroom not everyone is yelling things
out at the same time
2007.07.19 09:31:34 CatherineZ: or through webpages and things like that too
2007.07.19 09:31:35 XochitlP: some classes online dont have you do this
2007.07.19 09:31:36 NancySal: I also pefer online
2007.07.19 09:31:45 DanikaB: but, you can go back and read the transcripts and
chances are, you will get most of it, even if you don't realize that.
2007.07.19 09:31:52 AndreaZ: yes
2007.07.19 09:31:53 CatherineZ: yeah thats what i was going to say
2007.07.19 09:31:57 AnabellR: for me is a new expererience and I like it
2007.07.19 09:31:57 JoseRH: I it cool because it can help us to think faster
2007.07.19 09:31:57 LuciaG: yup
2007.07.19 09:32:01 JoseRH: and be on our toes
2007.07.19 09:32:02 EduardoG: i like classrooms because they offer more personal
communication
2007.07.19 09:32:04 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:32:05 CatherineZ: you can read back later to refresh or review
2007.07.19 09:32:05 DianaG: i like the combination of class and tapped in
2007.07.19 09:32:06 LudivinaV: i guess whoever is at home maybe in their pj's
2007.07.19 09:32:13 CatherineZ: those people are lucky!
2007.07.19 09:32:13 SamanthaRG: i like both equally
2007.07.19 09:32:18 CatherineZ: im at school! lol
2007.07.19 09:32:21 DanikaB: that's totally true, eduardo. and that's why I
don't do this course entirely online.
2007.07.19 09:32:23 CatherineZ: ok, back to the topic
2007.07.19 09:32:24 XochitlP: i think the internet conversations make things
a bit more informal
2007.07.19 09:32:28 VanessaT: i agree with eduardo
2007.07.19 09:32:35 DianaG: true
2007.07.19 09:32:36 NancySal: That is a good thing Dr. Brown
2007.07.19 09:32:38 XochitlP: it allows for thoughts to flow more freely
2007.07.19 09:32:38 CatherineZ: i think that we still need the interaction with
the prof to clarify things
2007.07.19 09:32:39 JulissaL: i like both equally too
2007.07.19 09:32:47 AndreaZ: i think it's good that we have a balance
2007.07.19 09:32:50 DanikaB: but, we are more and more relying on technology
for more of our interactions, so it may be important for us to think about and
use those technologies.
2007.07.19 09:32:50 LourdesR: I too agree with Eduardo
2007.07.19 09:32:51 LudivinaV: yes
2007.07.19 09:32:51 EduardoG: thanks for considering that Dr. Brown
2007.07.19 09:32:56 CatherineZ: you know?? The traditional way will always be
effective....
2007.07.19 09:32:58 AmeliaIG: principle 4 example shows how shy students respond
more throught email, and thats exactly whats going on now
2007.07.19 09:32:59 SamanthaRG: i also feel restricted in both ways what i can
say face to face and vice versa
2007.07.19 09:33:01 XochitlP: i agree
2007.07.19 09:33:13 XochitlP: i used to not want to admit it
2007.07.19 09:33:13 DanikaB: ;nods
2007.07.19 09:33:13 CatherineZ: but it can be improved with things like the
use of technology
2007.07.19 09:33:14 LuciaG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:33:15 AidalinS: i also agreee
2007.07.19 09:33:17 LourdesR: But it is still different and good to get the
practice
2007.07.19 09:33:18 JovanaG: true, because instead of writing a letter we email;
2007.07.19 09:33:20 NancySal: I also agree
2007.07.19 09:33:28 RubenB: Well for me its better because I do not have to
drive all the way from Roma to Panam
2007.07.19 09:33:39 XochitlP: i feel that we should be able to function without
technology too though
2007.07.19 09:33:41 AlexandrMB: yet it helps teh student be more comfortable
right?
2007.07.19 09:33:42 LuciaG: me 2 ruben
2007.07.19 09:33:42 JovanaG: so we interact through technology more
2007.07.19 09:33:44 DanikaB smiles at Ruben
2007.07.19 09:33:45 AnabellR: I like the classroom better. I like to remember
faces!
2007.07.19 09:33:49 SamanthaRG: cool anohter point
2007.07.19 09:33:52 CatherineZ: But as far as instruction goes, i think you
need the face to face interaction at least at times
2007.07.19 09:33:53 XochitlP: even though i understand its importance
2007.07.19 09:33:55 JoseRH: Danika smile at Jose too
2007.07.19 09:33:58 LudivinaV: it's informal communication but it's gets everyone
writing...more involved
2007.07.19 09:33:59 AdrianB: agree ruben
2007.07.19 09:33:59 EduardoG: I agree with AmeliaIG
2007.07.19 09:34:00 SamanthaRG: accommadating commuter students
2007.07.19 09:34:00 SonyaAndrV: In the future, arent most classes going to be
this way?
2007.07.19 09:34:06 CatherineZ: perhaps
2007.07.19 09:34:08 DanikaB: okay, let's think about principle 4.... evaluate
technology use critically
2007.07.19 09:34:08 LourdesR: I am loving it since I can't be in school yet!
2007.07.19 09:34:12 IrmaalcatG: i hope not
2007.07.19 09:34:13 SamanthaRG: hope not i like bother
2007.07.19 09:34:17 SamanthaRG: both
2007.07.19 09:34:24 DanikaB: in what ways have we been doing that here? or in
what ways might we do more of that?
2007.07.19 09:34:50 NancySal: Technology is going to advance through out the
years and we have to be be aware of it
2007.07.19 09:34:50 JulissaL: we dont always meet online
2007.07.19 09:34:51 AmeliaIG: thanks eduardog
2007.07.19 09:34:57 JulissaL: that when
2007.07.19 09:34:58 CatherineZ: like i said earlier, the discussion is moving
along nicely
2007.07.19 09:35:02 CatherineZ: more than in class, usually
2007.07.19 09:35:04 NuviaS: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:04 XochitlP: we learning about the means of technology
2007.07.19 09:35:12 CatherineZ: people are not as shy to speak (or type)
2007.07.19 09:35:13 JovanaG: start them young
2007.07.19 09:35:14 XochitlP: the different ways we can use it
2007.07.19 09:35:22 DanikaB: "we need to be critical evaluators in our
own methods classes and involve our students in that process"
2007.07.19 09:35:25 DianaG: learning tech and how it can be applied in class
2007.07.19 09:35:27 AidalinS: i think that is great because i really don't knowmuch
about technology
2007.07.19 09:35:28 DanikaB: the article says that...
2007.07.19 09:35:36 LuciaG: with the discussion you know what everyone thinks
2007.07.19 09:35:39 DanikaB: so, do you think i'm involving you in that process?
2007.07.19 09:35:44 CatherineZ: Definitely
2007.07.19 09:35:45 NancySal: I agree with AidalinS
2007.07.19 09:35:45 AlexandrMB: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:46 JoseRH: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:47 RuthM: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:48 SamanthaRG: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:48 VanessaT: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:50 AnabellR: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:52 AmeliaIG: absolutely
2007.07.19 09:35:52 JovanaG: yeah
2007.07.19 09:35:53 AraceliaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:53 RubenB: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:54 DianaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:55 XochitlP: we need to dustinguysh between reliable and non
reliable info
2007.07.19 09:35:56 AaronF: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:57 LourdesR: yes
2007.07.19 09:35:58 LudivinaV: my 10 yr old son loves to be on the computer
2007.07.19 09:35:59 VanessaCas: of course
2007.07.19 09:36:00 LuciaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:36:04 KarinaS: yes
2007.07.19 09:36:06 HilarioP: yes
2007.07.19 09:36:07 AidalinS: of course
2007.07.19 09:36:09 JoseRH: but you telling us to come to this website
2007.07.19 09:36:09 AndreaZ: it's using technology with a purpose
2007.07.19 09:36:12 AdrianB: I agree with jovahna
2007.07.19 09:36:15 AlexandrMB: it is preparing us
2007.07.19 09:36:15 GracielaC: right
2007.07.19 09:36:16 XochitlP: on th net
2007.07.19 09:36:18 LudivinaV: and if our students are going to be like him...
2007.07.19 09:36:18 DianaG: true
2007.07.19 09:36:27 AdrianB: true
2007.07.19 09:36:27 DanikaB listens to ludivina
2007.07.19 09:36:30 NancySal: I agree with AlexandrMB
2007.07.19 09:36:32 AidalinS: i agree with AndreaZ
2007.07.19 09:36:38 LudivinaV: then we need to know how to incorporte it into
our classrooms
2007.07.19 09:36:39 DanikaB smiles at all the agreement
2007.07.19 09:36:44 CatherineZ: Danika, like the article says " If teachers
use this process, they will become teacher-researchers in their own classrooms.
They will systematically pose questions, examine when it is appropriate and
useful to integrate technology and when it is not, and follow through with the
implementation and evaluation of the technology use."
2007.07.19 09:36:45 LourdesR: I have to time my kids on the computer because
they all want more time on the computers
2007.07.19 09:36:52 DianaG: ludivina has a good point
2007.07.19 09:36:59 DanikaB: exactly, catherine.
2007.07.19 09:37:02 CatherineZ: thats what you are doing with us, in this course
2007.07.19 09:37:04 AidalinS: yes i believe we do nedd to learn how to incorporate
it into our classrooms
2007.07.19 09:37:05 CatherineZ: (:
2007.07.19 09:37:12 CatherineZ: yay! haha
2007.07.19 09:37:16 RubenB: It would be great is this could be used in schools
2007.07.19 09:37:18 EduardoG: "The goal of this critical analysis of technology
integration is to articulate and internalize a process for questioning and probing
both the why and how of infusing technology through various applications, programs,
web sites, methods of teaching, or communication tools."
2007.07.19 09:37:21 NancySal: (:
2007.07.19 09:37:23 AlexandrMB: it says somewhere in the text that teachers
are also learning from their students
2007.07.19 09:37:24 XochitlP: i think the students know more about tech than
us
2007.07.19 09:37:26 DanikaB: okay, but, that might get us to principle 7, diversity
and access
2007.07.19 09:37:27 NuviaS smiles
2007.07.19 09:37:29 XochitlP: technology
2007.07.19 09:37:30 AaronF: but we need learn to incorporate it right, not just
for the sake of having technology
2007.07.19 09:37:33 NancySal smiles
2007.07.19 09:37:37 XochitlP: well the kids today
2007.07.19 09:37:41 DanikaB nods to Aaron
2007.07.19 09:37:43 CatherineZ: should we look at principle 7?
2007.07.19 09:37:43 AlexandrMB: they keep us in the loop of tech
2007.07.19 09:37:45 XochitlP: maybe im wrong
2007.07.19 09:37:46 DanikaB: you are absolutely right, aaron
2007.07.19 09:37:55 DanikaB nods about principle 7
2007.07.19 09:37:56 AlexandrMB: they are the ones that are going to know more
about this
2007.07.19 09:38:01 CatherineZ: k.
2007.07.19 09:38:06 DanikaB: i think this is definitely an issue in the Valley.
2007.07.19 09:38:08 XochitlP: i dont even know how to use an ipod
2007.07.19 09:38:19 XochitlP: i dont really care about having one anywone
2007.07.19 09:38:23 XochitlP: anyway
2007.07.19 09:38:23 LuciaG: me neither
2007.07.19 09:38:24 CatherineZ: accessibility, Dankia?
2007.07.19 09:38:24 DanikaB: Do you think local schools might have some limitations
on access and resources?
2007.07.19 09:38:27 CatherineZ: Danika*
2007.07.19 09:38:33 AndreaZ: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:37 CarolynJC : this article made me think....what future are
we setting up for our kids
2007.07.19 09:38:37 RubenB: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:38 NancySal: I hope not
2007.07.19 09:38:38 VanessaT: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:38 AlexandrMB: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:39 CatherineZ: most definitely
2007.07.19 09:38:41 IrmaalcatG: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:41 XochitlP: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:41 KarinaS: many of them
2007.07.19 09:38:44 LuciaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:46 CatherineZ: lack of funding...no budget...etc
2007.07.19 09:38:46 AdrianB: yes
2007.07.19 09:38:46 AlexandrMB: especially here
2007.07.19 09:38:48 AnabellR: teachers and future teachers need more training
and really practice in a daily basics that way they can be informed.
2007.07.19 09:38:52 AlexandrMB: in the Valley
2007.07.19 09:38:56 LourdesR: true
2007.07.19 09:38:57 DianaG: yes not everyone has the accas
2007.07.19 09:38:58 XochitlP: ive been to schools were there wasnt even a class
computer
2007.07.19 09:38:59 NuviaS: ones you get the hang of anything practically it
all falls to an everyday use
2007.07.19 09:39:07 DanikaB: so, what are some ways you might think about addressing
that issue if you do feel that you need to incorporate technology into your
classes?
2007.07.19 09:39:09 AndreaZ: money is not always used wisely and we have to
do what we can with what the district has
2007.07.19 09:39:10 DianaG: sorry i mean access
2007.07.19 09:39:12 CatherineZ: but is that something that is out of our control
for the most part? Like as educators, we have to make use with what we have??
2007.07.19 09:39:16 NancySal: Even though we dont really need technology most
of the times, I believe that it is very helpful in a lot aspects
2007.07.19 09:39:27 JovanaG: use the resources that you have at that point
2007.07.19 09:39:34 CarolynJC : but for their future when they get out into
the real world they are going to the think they are the boss and they know everything
2007.07.19 09:39:39 JulissaL: i agree with catherine
2007.07.19 09:39:39 NancySal: I agree AnabellR
2007.07.19 09:39:40 AdrianB: I agree with Andrea
2007.07.19 09:39:44 DanikaB: okay, be creative with the resources that exist...
2007.07.19 09:39:45 AaronF: i would incorporate technology only if the lesson
called for it
2007.07.19 09:39:45 JoseRH: Me to
2007.07.19 09:39:46 CatherineZ: give assignments that would involve the computer,
or even like a home video or something...perhaps?
2007.07.19 09:39:49 CatherineZ: Correct
2007.07.19 09:39:50 AmeliaIG: the low income families might not be able to buy
their children a computer or other technological advances so it is important
for the student to gain that knowledge in an educational setting
2007.07.19 09:39:52 XochitlP: but by technonlogy are we also talking about different
forms of media in gerneal?
2007.07.19 09:39:58 EduardoG: I like the idea of doing a fundraising to purchase
a computer for a class that does not have one. It involves, students, parents
and teachers.
2007.07.19 09:39:59 JovanaG: yes be creative with what you have
2007.07.19 09:40:02 XochitlP: like tv, art
2007.07.19 09:40:03 AraceliaG: you have to be
2007.07.19 09:40:04 CatherineZ: like do what you can so that your students are
gaining the most they can from a lesson
2007.07.19 09:40:12 XochitlP: movies, radio
2007.07.19 09:40:14 SamanthaRG: find the funds
2007.07.19 09:40:15 XochitlP: ect...
2007.07.19 09:40:18 DanikaB: good, xochitl, you are expanding our understanding
of "technology"
2007.07.19 09:40:19 CatherineZ: BE CREATIVE!
2007.07.19 09:40:23 XochitlP: sure
2007.07.19 09:40:34 AlexandrMB: i agree
2007.07.19 09:40:36 LudivinaV: the school that I kids attend is using technology
a lot
2007.07.19 09:40:37 XochitlP: their are many differnet kinds of tech
2007.07.19 09:40:38 CatherineZ: Technology is all around us now...
2007.07.19 09:40:41 AidalinS: i also agree
2007.07.19 09:40:44 AndreaZ: here's where school policies come in
2007.07.19 09:40:48 NancySal: I agree
2007.07.19 09:40:48 DanikaB: okay, samantha suggests looking for money... there
are lots of grants for educators and using technology. that means becoming good
at grant writing too!
2007.07.19 09:40:50 CatherineZ: so you should use it and take advantage of it
as much you can
2007.07.19 09:40:51 RubenB: even if teachers get more education in technology
most school campus don't have enough computers or use them for something else
2007.07.19 09:41:00 DanikaB: and, using technology to find those grants.
2007.07.19 09:41:01 LuciaG: everything involves technology
2007.07.19 09:41:09 AlexandrMB: they start teaching kids in pre k how to use
a comp
2007.07.19 09:41:13 LudivinaV: kids in 5th grade must know how to research a
topic at the library and online
2007.07.19 09:41:14 AraceliaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:16 XochitlP: well i think if you had time to do that
2007.07.19 09:41:17 AlexandrMB: they are starting young too
2007.07.19 09:41:22 DanikaB: so, teaching might be enhanced by technology even
if you don't use computers in the classroom, right?
2007.07.19 09:41:24 CatherineZ: Proposals might not always be approved though?
Right?
2007.07.19 09:41:30 CatherineZ: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:31 XochitlP: i think that most schools in the valley...
2007.07.19 09:41:31 AmeliaIG: right
2007.07.19 09:41:32 NancySal: My son is 6 and he is a very good with computers
2007.07.19 09:41:34 DanikaB: that's right, catherine.
2007.07.19 09:41:34 JovanaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:35 DianaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:37 LudivinaV: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:37 AnabellR: today, even preschoolers are involved in computers,
is sad to reallize that some teachers do not know how to interact with them
by providing new resources for their lesson plans
2007.07.19 09:41:39 XochitlP: have plenty of acess to tech
2007.07.19 09:41:43 JulissaL: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:45 AlexandrMB: yes it all depends on the ideals of the school
board
2007.07.19 09:41:48 AlexandrMB: right?
2007.07.19 09:41:48 VanessaT: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:48 AaronF: but sometimes technology hinders the learning effectiveness
2007.07.19 09:41:49 AdrianB: yes
2007.07.19 09:41:51 JulissaL: right catherine
2007.07.19 09:41:51 LourdesR: Kids now are being taught to also so powerpoint
presentations in the school from what i hear
2007.07.19 09:41:52 DanikaB: you can't count on grants, but they do offer possibility.
2007.07.19 09:41:54 CatherineZ: So does that mean, again, to make use with what
you have.
2007.07.19 09:41:57 CarolynJC: i agree with aaron
2007.07.19 09:41:57 CatherineZ: oh ok
2007.07.19 09:41:58 AndreaZ: its becoming a need instead of a luxury
2007.07.19 09:42:00 HilarioP: i agree
2007.07.19 09:42:01 JoseRH: I agree with Hilaro
2007.07.19 09:42:02 CatherineZ: i see
2007.07.19 09:42:03 AidalinS: right
2007.07.19 09:42:07 DanikaB: i agree with aaron, too.
2007.07.19 09:42:08 DianaG: true
2007.07.19 09:42:08 RubenB: Yes they do but they only have one or two computers
for a classroom
2007.07.19 09:42:13 SamanthaRG: improvise and find funds
2007.07.19 09:42:14 LourdesR: definetly
2007.07.19 09:42:17 XochitlP: i dont believe in all those comp boring things
they make the elementary kids do
2007.07.19 09:42:18 NuviaS: i agree with aaron
2007.07.19 09:42:18 AlexandrMB: me too
2007.07.19 09:42:20 DanikaB: so we need to be careful about how we think of
and use technology in the classroom.
2007.07.19 09:42:22 AdrianB: yes when used properly
2007.07.19 09:42:26 XochitlP: its so monotomous
2007.07.19 09:42:33 AraceliaG: and its convenient
2007.07.19 09:42:33 AidalinS: yes u have to use them properly
2007.07.19 09:42:34 JoseRH: yea
2007.07.19 09:42:37 NancySal: I agree with AdrianB
2007.07.19 09:42:39 CatherineZ: Thats why i say you need traditional teaching
as well. Don't let technology take over entirely...just yet
2007.07.19 09:42:47 AdrianB: yes
2007.07.19 09:42:49 JoseRH: or ever
2007.07.19 09:42:49 DanikaB nods and listens to you all
2007.07.19 09:42:50 XochitlP: ya
2007.07.19 09:42:51 AmeliaIG: you need to know when and how to use technology
in a classroom
2007.07.19 09:42:52 IrmaalcatG: yes i agree
2007.07.19 09:42:52 AlexandrMB: half and half works
2007.07.19 09:42:53 DianaG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:42:58 CarolynJC: i thinking using comps will really cut down on
communications skills
2007.07.19 09:42:59 NancySal: I agree with CatherineZ
2007.07.19 09:43:00 AidalinS: i agree with CatrherineZ
2007.07.19 09:43:00 VanessaCas: i think a little bit of both need to be incorporated
into the classroom
2007.07.19 09:43:00 AlexandrMB: like we are doing
2007.07.19 09:43:03 RubenB: It has to be a combination of both
2007.07.19 09:43:03 AaronF: it has to be a mixture of traditional and technolgy
based
2007.07.19 09:43:10 XochitlP: thats true
2007.07.19 09:43:12 JoseRH: There still need to be people that run it
2007.07.19 09:43:14 SamanthaRG: good pt carolyn
2007.07.19 09:43:17 XochitlP: verbal communication is very impt
2007.07.19 09:43:18 LuciaG: i agree with aaron
2007.07.19 09:43:18 AaronF: but the technolgy is only there to supplement your
teaching, not do it for you
2007.07.19 09:43:19 XochitlP: too
2007.07.19 09:43:21 LudivinaV: a mixture is good
2007.07.19 09:43:22 CatherineZ: Like you have to and should keep up with technological
advances...
2007.07.19 09:43:29 NancySal: I also believe is a combination of both
2007.07.19 09:43:31 JoseRH: Thats true
2007.07.19 09:43:31 CatherineZ: But still need traditional structure to be effective
2007.07.19 09:43:35 AdrianB: I agree with Aaron
2007.07.19 09:43:38 RuthM: true
2007.07.19 09:43:42 XochitlP: but perhaps tech helps students, like us, to become
more verbal in the classroom
2007.07.19 09:43:43 NancySal: But always keep up with technology
2007.07.19 09:43:44 SamanthaRG: goes back to the beginning principles
2007.07.19 09:43:45 AidalinS: i agree with NancySal
2007.07.19 09:43:46 VanessaT: i agree with Aaron
2007.07.19 09:43:48 RubenB: I agree with aaron
2007.07.19 09:43:51 AraceliaG: good aaron
2007.07.19 09:43:54 DanikaB: okay, so we feel like we need to balance online
interaction with face to face discussions and activities?
2007.07.19 09:43:56 CatherineZ: Perhaps...
2007.07.19 09:43:58 AmeliaIG: thats because some students are more visual than
others
2007.07.19 09:44:00 LuciaG: i think i little of both is good because some students
prefer one or the other
2007.07.19 09:44:02 AlexandrMB: if it is only over the comp we loose how to
communicate w others
2007.07.19 09:44:03 JovanaG: yes
2007.07.19 09:44:11 AlexandrMB: that is what many people are scared of
2007.07.19 09:44:12 AaronF: I think your approac is effective
2007.07.19 09:44:12 AdrianB: maybe
2007.07.19 09:44:14 LudivinaV: yes, a balance online
2007.07.19 09:44:14 VanessaCas: i agree....a little bit of both
2007.07.19 09:44:14 XochitlP: ya
2007.07.19 09:44:15 SamanthaRG: its about reading writing listening and speaking
2007.07.19 09:44:16 CatherineZ: We should just depend on technology
2007.07.19 09:44:17 VictoriaNG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:44:19 DanikaB: well, we all seem to be communicating with each
other here, right?
2007.07.19 09:44:20 AndreaZ: it depends on the teacher's personal belifs
2007.07.19 09:44:23 LourdesR: I don't know that the classroom could be completely
removed but for sure tech can surely be combined with the traditional way of
teaching
2007.07.19 09:44:32 VictoriaNG: yep
2007.07.19 09:44:32 AaronF: having traditional class, and then setting aside
some time for technology based learning
2007.07.19 09:44:34 NuviaS: it is not what you know more but what you use more
2007.07.19 09:44:40 CarolynJC: and in the article it states that teachers need
to keep up with their students progress with the comp....is that a waste of
time if some get it and some dont
2007.07.19 09:44:42 CatherineZ: There are a lot of factors...like what if the
internet is down one day? We would lose a whole day of instruction....then what?
2007.07.19 09:44:47 JulissaL: true andrea
2007.07.19 09:44:48 NancySal: I agree with NuviaS
2007.07.19 09:44:54 AlexandrMB: like we are doing NOW
2007.07.19 09:44:58 JoseRH: yea then what
2007.07.19 09:45:03 DanikaB: it would be like a snow-day, i guess Catherine
2007.07.19 09:45:04 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:45:04 NancySal: exactly
2007.07.19 09:45:07 JovanaG: yeah we are communicating but we are talking about
different things at the same time
2007.07.19 09:45:07 JulissaL: true lourdesR
2007.07.19 09:45:09 XochitlP im getting really hungry
2007.07.19 09:45:11 CatherineZ: oh i see
2007.07.19 09:45:14 CatherineZ: lol
2007.07.19 09:45:23 NancySal: lol
2007.07.19 09:45:24 AdrianB: I agree with Nuvia
2007.07.19 09:45:24 AmeliaIG: i remember going to the computer lab in elementary
so technology was already being incoporated at that time
2007.07.19 09:45:24 LuisR joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:45:28 DanikaB: thanks for sharing that information Xochitl
2007.07.19 09:45:30 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:45:33 DianaG: me too
2007.07.19 09:45:35 XochitlP: =)
2007.07.19 09:45:35 JovanaG confused
2007.07.19 09:45:43 CatherineZ: Danika, would you agree that we are getting
spoiled by this whole technology thing because it makes things so much easier
on us??
2007.07.19 09:45:44 AaronF: i agree with xochitl..im hungrytoo
2007.07.19 09:45:56 JoseRH: I agree
2007.07.19 09:45:59 AaronF: does it though?
2007.07.19 09:46:02 SamanthaRG: spoiled?
2007.07.19 09:46:03 JoseRH: Yes
2007.07.19 09:46:04 EduardoG: technology triggers hunger...lol
2007.07.19 09:46:05 XochitlP: humm good question
2007.07.19 09:46:10 JulissaL: spoiled as in lazy?
2007.07.19 09:46:12 XochitlP: true
2007.07.19 09:46:12 AaronF: isnt it harder to follow along than being in a traditional
classroom
2007.07.19 09:46:14 DanikaB: well, i think using technology siimplifies some
things... however, i will tell you that using this technology (or technologies)....
2007.07.19 09:46:14 AidalinS: very good question
2007.07.19 09:46:17 LourdesR: easier yes but what happens when they tech is
down and out
2007.07.19 09:46:18 CatherineZ: Yeah, its that whole "information at your
fingertips"
2007.07.19 09:46:20 DianaG: is true is less work
2007.07.19 09:46:21 AndreaZ: sometimes it can make us lazy thinkers
2007.07.19 09:46:26 DanikaB: for this class, is actually a ton more work than
just having a traditional class....
2007.07.19 09:46:31 AlexandrMB: spoiled i think not is a convience
2007.07.19 09:46:31 NancySal: I agree with AidalinS
2007.07.19 09:46:32 LudivinaV: no, it not lazy
2007.07.19 09:46:35 LuciaG: i agree
2007.07.19 09:46:36 SamanthaRG: what about accommadating students who cant b
n a classroom
2007.07.19 09:46:40 CatherineZ: Yeah, you are right
2007.07.19 09:46:42 DanikaB: if i were to just order a textbook, follow it,
and all that, that's no work at all for me
2007.07.19 09:46:44 AlexandrMB: however there are risk
2007.07.19 09:46:46 SamanthaRG: or networking to learn more
2007.07.19 09:46:46 NancySal: I agree with Dr. Brown
2007.07.19 09:46:49 CatherineZ: Things seem to get more complicated
2007.07.19 09:46:51 CatherineZ: right
2007.07.19 09:46:51 LudivinaV: i have taken courses online before and it's more
work
2007.07.19 09:46:52 CatherineZ: ?
2007.07.19 09:46:52 DanikaB: if i lecture, that's easy....
2007.07.19 09:46:55 JoseRH: not really danika becuse some of us learn by seeing
2007.07.19 09:47:00 AmeliaIG: i hadn't thought of that...
2007.07.19 09:47:04 JoseRH: Not readin
2007.07.19 09:47:05 DanikaB: managing this kind of chaotic discussion, that's
a lot of work.
2007.07.19 09:47:05 NancySal: That is true
2007.07.19 09:47:09 XochitlP: well when i had my baby i thought online classes
were great
2007.07.19 09:47:09 VanessaCas: that's true
2007.07.19 09:47:09 VanessaT: i learn by seeing
2007.07.19 09:47:11 CatherineZ: I understand...
2007.07.19 09:47:13 AidalinS: yes i agree with JoseRH
2007.07.19 09:47:16 JovanaG: but it depends on the students some learn more
through lecture or reading then anything else
2007.07.19 09:47:17 AlexandrMB: nowadays children are antisocial becasue they
are always on the comp instead of being interactive w children
2007.07.19 09:47:18 HilarioP: i agree with jose
2007.07.19 09:47:25 SonyaAndrV: Yes, I thinkt the kind of technology you have
given us is not simplified at all
2007.07.19 09:47:28 XochitlP: but what about for high school students who have
babies
2007.07.19 09:47:32 AidalinS: yes
2007.07.19 09:47:33 DianaG: i agree it depends on the student
2007.07.19 09:47:33 CatherineZ: yeah, Alexandra has a point
2007.07.19 09:47:35 LourdesR: That is why we still need the tradtional for all
students
2007.07.19 09:47:37 CatherineZ: We lose people skills
2007.07.19 09:47:38 SonyaAndrV: which is what i think you wanted right, to make
things more challnenging for us
2007.07.19 09:47:39 IrmaalcatG: yeah thats right
2007.07.19 09:47:40 JulissaL: that is true
2007.07.19 09:47:45 NancySal: you need to have the opportunity to explore other
things in order to know what is going on today and in the future
2007.07.19 09:47:59 AidalinS: i agree with NancySal
2007.07.19 09:48:01 LourdesR: very true about the people skills
2007.07.19 09:48:03 JulissaL: true alez
2007.07.19 09:48:07 JulissaL: alex*
2007.07.19 09:48:10 XochitlP: i think some people spend tooooo much time on
the computer
2007.07.19 09:48:11 AdrianB: true nancy
2007.07.19 09:48:13 DianaG: good point
2007.07.19 09:48:19 CatherineZ: But, the fact of the matter is we need to be
technlogy savvy to make it in this world today!
2007.07.19 09:48:24 CatherineZ: everything is emailed!
2007.07.19 09:48:24 NancySal: do you think that technology is changing rapidly?
2007.07.19 09:48:25 LourdesR: right again
2007.07.19 09:48:26 JoseRH: that is true but if you explore then you will be
doing alot of expoloring because technology is endless
2007.07.19 09:48:26 CatherineZ: and typed!
2007.07.19 09:48:28 CarolynJC: well if schools invest money towards comp, what
curiculum are they going to cut
2007.07.19 09:48:30 CatherineZ: and so on and so forth!
2007.07.19 09:48:38 XochitlP: it does have its bad things but thats a whole
nother topic
2007.07.19 09:48:39 JovanaG: i thnk XochitlP is right because they use it more
for pleasure then anything else
2007.07.19 09:48:46 EduardoG: I have the same question as CarolynJC
2007.07.19 09:48:49 SonyaAndrV: Yes, almost everything is used with computers
2007.07.19 09:48:51 XochitlP: ya
2007.07.19 09:48:53 AmeliaIG: then u must understand the importance of technology
in the classroom and don't mind the extra work as long as your students gain
from your instruction
2007.07.19 09:48:54 NuviaS: I agree
2007.07.19 09:48:55 AaronF: its not good to be overdependant on tech.
2007.07.19 09:48:56 LudivinaV: yes, at my work, we would e-mail someone across
the hall
2007.07.19 09:48:57 LourdesR: everything has pros and cons
2007.07.19 09:49:00 LudivinaV: no walking
2007.07.19 09:49:00 JoseRH: yep
2007.07.19 09:49:04 DanikaB: hmm.. i use technology very little for pleasure.
to me, it is all for work
2007.07.19 09:49:07 XochitlP: it opens p the gateway for alot of bad things
2007.07.19 09:49:10 XochitlP: but
2007.07.19 09:49:11 DanikaB: which i enjoy, but still...
2007.07.19 09:49:12 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:49:17 SonyaAndrV: The airport too is all technology
2007.07.19 09:49:19 AlexandrMB: me 2
2007.07.19 09:49:20 XochitlP: its really good for research
2007.07.19 09:49:21 CatherineZ: but now theres websites like MySpace and things
like that
2007.07.19 09:49:23 EduardoG: Same here Dr. Brown
2007.07.19 09:49:28 DianaG: true
2007.07.19 09:49:29 CatherineZ: so a lot of people are using it for pleasure
2007.07.19 09:49:30 DanikaB nods at Eduardo
2007.07.19 09:49:35 CatherineZ: and work!
2007.07.19 09:49:35 XochitlP: for my other class i get alot of novel notes online
2007.07.19 09:49:39 CatherineZ: Cause of school and everything
2007.07.19 09:49:42 AlexandrMB: umm me 2
2007.07.19 09:49:44 NancySal: I believe so too
2007.07.19 09:49:46 AlexandrMB: yet mostly for wrk
2007.07.19 09:49:49 CatherineZ: so perhaps there is a balance for some?
2007.07.19 09:49:50 LudivinaV: i just use it for work and school
2007.07.19 09:49:53 SonyaAndrV: See computers can be for a lot of things, but
it depends how the person uses it
2007.07.19 09:49:53 XochitlP: instead od having to spend time searching through
a library
2007.07.19 09:49:54 DanikaB: well, let's look at the quote that the article
opens with....
2007.07.19 09:49:56 JoseRH: 4 some
2007.07.19 09:50:03 SonyaAndrV: its not the computer, its the person
2007.07.19 09:50:04 JoseRH: not all
2007.07.19 09:50:07 SonyaAndrV: and how they make use of it
2007.07.19 09:50:09 JulissaL: but kids i think just LOVE myspace
2007.07.19 09:50:14 AdrianB: I think is a combination of both
2007.07.19 09:50:14 CatherineZ: Well, maybe the younger kids appreciate the
pleasure while still getting work done
2007.07.19 09:50:15 DanikaB: that says that this "represents a new form
of language"
2007.07.19 09:50:17 JulissaL: my niece can be on myspace for hours
2007.07.19 09:50:25 DianaG: i used to pay bills, shopping, school and basically
everything else
2007.07.19 09:50:26 XochitlP: the page?
2007.07.19 09:50:30 LudivinaV: in our line of work, if there is a paper trail
then you've covered all your basis
2007.07.19 09:50:31 JoseRH: sorry tyring to say something fast
2007.07.19 09:50:32 DanikaB: so, is it just a tool, or does it change the way
we understand language itself?
2007.07.19 09:50:34 EduardoG: i agree finding a balance between work and play
is essential for a healthy relationship with technology.
2007.07.19 09:50:34 CatherineZ: IT DOES! things like IDK, LOL, and all of that
are now everday terms!
2007.07.19 09:50:38 LourdesR: very true about the language Dr.
2007.07.19 09:50:39 CatherineZ: Thanks to technology
2007.07.19 09:50:41 XochitlP: yes
2007.07.19 09:50:47 XochitlP: changes the language
2007.07.19 09:50:47 CatherineZ: BRB
2007.07.19 09:50:49 CatherineZ: all of that
2007.07.19 09:50:51 XochitlP: expands it
2007.07.19 09:50:53 CarolynJC: i think its a way we understand a certain language
2007.07.19 09:50:53 AlexandrMB: i agree w eddie
2007.07.19 09:50:55 CatherineZ: is a new form of language
2007.07.19 09:51:01 DanikaB: so, it changes the content of language, but how
about the nature of communication?
2007.07.19 09:51:05 JulissaL: i agree with Ed
2007.07.19 09:51:07 CatherineZ: that too
2007.07.19 09:51:08 AndreaZ: that too
2007.07.19 09:51:11 DianaG: used around the world
2007.07.19 09:51:12 XochitlP: oh surly
2007.07.19 09:51:17 NancySal: sure
2007.07.19 09:51:17 CatherineZ: communication becomes global
2007.07.19 09:51:18 DanikaB: we think of communication and interaction as something
that happens face to face or voice to voice...
2007.07.19 09:51:18 LuciaG: it also chnages that
2007.07.19 09:51:19 SonyaAndrV: The internet can actually help you with communications
2007.07.19 09:51:20 AdrianB: true
2007.07.19 09:51:20 LudivinaV: communication, yes
2007.07.19 09:51:22 AndreaZ: it connects everything
2007.07.19 09:51:23 CarolynJC: it changes the nature drastically and in a negative
way
2007.07.19 09:51:23 SonyaAndrV: communication*
2007.07.19 09:51:23 RubenB: true
2007.07.19 09:51:27 CatherineZ: voice to voice
2007.07.19 09:51:29 SonyaAndrV: I mean my mom talks to her sister from Japan
2007.07.19 09:51:30 VanessaT: true
2007.07.19 09:51:31 XochitlP: its faster
2007.07.19 09:51:31 SamanthaRG: it may make people more outspoken or do the
opposite
2007.07.19 09:51:34 SonyaAndrV: and its not as expensive
2007.07.19 09:51:37 JoseRH: cheaper
2007.07.19 09:51:37 SamanthaRG: leave people out
2007.07.19 09:51:38 CatherineZ: because on the phone you don't see...you hear
2007.07.19 09:51:40 SonyaAndrV: it makes it alot easeir on her
2007.07.19 09:51:41 LourdesR: so right it gets us so far
2007.07.19 09:51:41 DanikaB: but now we type type type and use text to describe
ourselves and our feelings, or our imagined actions, etc.
2007.07.19 09:51:52 CatherineZ: and right now we are using our typing as "voices"
2007.07.19 09:51:53 CarolynJC: yes but then people leave out the real world,
2007.07.19 09:52:01 JovanaG: yeah but you can't really know what the other person
is feeling
2007.07.19 09:52:03 AlexandrMB: yes and if tehre is a dem,and of the product
it will be cheaper
2007.07.19 09:52:05 AlexandrMB: right?
2007.07.19 09:52:06 XochitlP: so i a way ity expands our writing skills
2007.07.19 09:52:12 AlexandrMB: there*
2007.07.19 09:52:13 DanikaB: can you know that face to face, though Jovana?
2007.07.19 09:52:14 JovanaG: with face to face you can tell by just looking
at them
2007.07.19 09:52:15 SamanthaRG: this avenue might make a student more expressive
2007.07.19 09:52:21 CatherineZ: Feelings are used in the faces (: :( and all
of that
2007.07.19 09:52:22 SamanthaRG: n antoher way
2007.07.19 09:52:25 IrmaalcatG: yes technology is great and positive but it
is negative too becasue exist a lot of bad influece for the kids
2007.07.19 09:52:28 AndreaZ: true emotions can be covered, maybe thats why people
aren't so shy online
2007.07.19 09:52:29 CatherineZ: those smiles work wonders!
2007.07.19 09:52:30 CatherineZ: lol
2007.07.19 09:52:33 XochitlP: because we have to write and explain what were
thinking
2007.07.19 09:52:33 AidalinS: yes another way
2007.07.19 09:52:47 JovanaG: yeah but not everyone will use it and how can we
know that this is how they really feel
2007.07.19 09:52:49 CatherineZ ```( you would know im crying...cause of the
face
2007.07.19 09:52:53 SamanthaRG: same effect a personal journal might have
2007.07.19 09:52:57 CatherineZ: )111-111:
2007.07.19 09:52:57 SonyaAndrV: Yeah sometimes its hard if you say something
online the other person cant heart your tone of voice
2007.07.19 09:52:58 DanikaB: remember, what we communicate here is no less "real
world" than it would be in the classroom....
2007.07.19 09:52:59 CatherineZ: opps
2007.07.19 09:53:00 SonyaAndrV: and then they take it wrong
2007.07.19 09:53:01 CatherineZ: lol
2007.07.19 09:53:08 CarolynJC: by using technology in the classroom are we teaching
our kids to group up and just stick to comps and not deal with people
2007.07.19 09:53:09 LudivinaV: it's bad only if they are not doing something
productive
2007.07.19 09:53:09 CatherineZ: i agree Danika
2007.07.19 09:53:11 XochitlP: ya
2007.07.19 09:53:20 MarcS joined the room.
2007.07.19 09:53:20 CatherineZ: ```)``-:
2007.07.19 09:53:20 LudivinaV: if they are not learning anything
2007.07.19 09:53:22 VanessaT: i agree danika
2007.07.19 09:53:25 LourdesR: it is definelty making us use our writing skills
to the fullest right now for those of us who don't type very quickly
2007.07.19 09:53:34 DanikaB: for example, if someone said something racist,
or mean, or threatening, the implications (and the punishment) would be the
same as if it had been said in a "real" classroom
2007.07.19 09:53:37 CatherineZ: see, im sad, crying even. you can tell by the
expression
2007.07.19 09:53:44 VanessaCas: true
2007.07.19 09:53:46 CatherineZ: they would be
2007.07.19 09:53:48 NancySal: I agree with you Dr. Brown
2007.07.19 09:53:49 XochitlP: true
2007.07.19 09:53:49 VanessaT: true
2007.07.19 09:53:50 LuciaG: true
2007.07.19 09:53:52 LourdesR: true
2007.07.19 09:53:52 JoseRH: true
2007.07.19 09:53:53 DianaG: right
2007.07.19 09:53:54 GracielaC: right
2007.07.19 09:53:55 AraceliaG: yess
2007.07.19 09:53:58 AlexandrMB: yep!
2007.07.19 09:53:58 AnabellR: true
2007.07.19 09:53:59 RubenB: true
2007.07.19 09:53:59 AidalinS: yesa
2007.07.19 09:54:00 CarolynJC: how are they ever going to be able to make class
presentations in front of a large group with out the comp
2007.07.19 09:54:00 CatherineZ: because comments written are the evidence
2007.07.19 09:54:01 AdrianB: yes
2007.07.19 09:54:04 LudivinaV: yes
2007.07.19 09:54:08 JoseRH: yea
2007.07.19 09:54:13 NancySal: yea
2007.07.19 09:54:16 VanessaT: yeah
2007.07.19 09:54:18 XochitlP: i think people are more likely to rebuke that
person though
2007.07.19 09:54:21 XochitlP: on the internt
2007.07.19 09:54:25 AmeliaIG: true meanings are lost in translation
2007.07.19 09:54:25 IrmaalcatG: that is right
2007.07.19 09:54:26 AndreaZ: yes, but there can also be many misunderstandings
because how we say something (tone we use) can make a big difference
2007.07.19 09:54:26 JulissaL: yea
2007.07.19 09:54:28 CatherineZ: what you type are your words and you are as
responsible for them as if you were speaking face to face
2007.07.19 09:54:42 CatherineZ: inappropriate things are still not ok
2007.07.19 09:54:45 CatherineZ: in a classroom
2007.07.19 09:54:50 CatherineZ: on line or in person
2007.07.19 09:54:51 JovanaG: yes but for example if some one tells you off over
the computer would your reaction be different if it was face to face?
2007.07.19 09:54:51 DanikaB: right, but part of what we need to learn about
online communication is that just because it isn't face to face, the ramifications
of what we say are equally important
2007.07.19 09:54:52 AraceliaG: my 10 yr. old does power point presentations
for class
2007.07.19 09:54:55 SonyaAndrV: I agree Andrea, that's what i was saying earlier
too
2007.07.19 09:54:56 CatherineZ: i think its the say
2007.07.19 09:54:59 JoseRH: thats true
2007.07.19 09:55:01 CatherineZ: That's what I
2007.07.19 09:55:01 LudivinaV: online, anyone who says something racist can
just be blocked
2007.07.19 09:55:04 CatherineZ: am trying to say
2007.07.19 09:55:07 LourdesR: they still have the cameras for the computers
2007.07.19 09:55:09 EduardoG: i agree with andrea too.
2007.07.19 09:55:14 CatherineZ: I agree with Danika
2007.07.19 09:55:16 LudivinaV: yes, my son does too
2007.07.19 09:55:17 AidalinS: yes i slo agree
2007.07.19 09:55:20 AdrianB: that's true
2007.07.19 09:55:24 VanessaT: i agree with Danika
2007.07.19 09:55:30 CatherineZ: she took the words right out of my mouth! (fingers)
2007.07.19 09:55:31 CatherineZ: haha
2007.07.19 09:55:32 DianaG: me too
2007.07.19 09:55:39 NancySal: haha
2007.07.19 09:55:45 MarcS: heh heh
2007.07.19 09:55:45 CatherineZ: typed it faster than i could
2007.07.19 09:55:49 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:56:02 AidalinS: hahah
2007.07.19 09:56:06 LuciaG: lol
2007.07.19 09:56:10 CatherineZ: is who can type faster the one who would be
talking fastest in a regular class?
2007.07.19 09:56:13 AmeliaIG: that is true danika, the fbi will be at your door
if you say something inappropriate
2007.07.19 09:56:17 SonyaAndrV: Dr, Brown what do you think about texting?
2007.07.19 09:56:25 XochitlP: no
2007.07.19 09:56:29 JoseRH: not really i talk alot but cannot type at all
2007.07.19 09:56:30 DanikaB: okay, so notice that what we've done here is had
a lengthy discussion. many of you contributed, some didn't, but followed along
(I hope)....
2007.07.19 09:56:35 JoseRH: so i am quiet
2007.07.19 09:56:36 XochitlP: lol
2007.07.19 09:56:40 CatherineZ: i am addicted to texting!
2007.07.19 09:56:44 JulissaL: lol
2007.07.19 09:56:47 NancySal: lol
2007.07.19 09:56:50 MarcS: i follow but i'm a leader
2007.07.19 09:56:51 LuisR: <-------------followed along
2007.07.19 09:56:52 DianaG: yup, i dont type fast at all
2007.07.19 09:56:58 SonyaAndrV: That is used alot today. I mean my boss sends
me texts all the time.
2007.07.19 09:57:02 CarolynJC: i think texting is anoying
2007.07.19 09:57:02 JoseRH: yea JoseRH too
2007.07.19 09:57:09 DanikaB: oh, texting... i love it. i hate talking on the
phone and all my friends know if they call i won't answer, but if they text
me, i'll get right back to them. i even have a dual flip phone so i can text
faster.
2007.07.19 09:57:10 LourdesR: I type a little slow for you all
2007.07.19 09:57:12 XochitlP: me too
2007.07.19 09:57:14 CatherineZ: so in this context you are considered a "slow
talker" even if you normally talk a lot
2007.07.19 09:57:16 DanikaB smiles at Luis
2007.07.19 09:57:19 KarinaS: yes
2007.07.19 09:57:22 IrmaalcatG: why? i like texting
2007.07.19 09:57:24 XochitlP: its so rude when people are texting in class
2007.07.19 09:57:30 AmeliaIG: ME 2
2007.07.19 09:57:31 CatherineZ: because of your typing skills
2007.07.19 09:57:31 NancySal: I like texting as well
2007.07.19 09:57:32 RubenB: Well i said more than what i would say in class
2007.07.19 09:57:37 AlexandrMB: me 2
2007.07.19 09:57:37 CatherineZ: i dont do it in class.
2007.07.19 09:57:40 CatherineZ: ):
2007.07.19 09:57:41 CatherineZ: lol
2007.07.19 09:57:41 LudivinaV: i don't know how to text on the phone
2007.07.19 09:57:45 CatherineZ: im saying in general
2007.07.19 09:57:46 LourdesR: I agree it is rude in class
2007.07.19 09:57:49 DanikaB: so, when you present here online, you will be leading
a discussion, much like i did (only people will listen more and talk less and
it will be much shorter!
2007.07.19 09:57:49 LuisR: Smiling back
2007.07.19 09:57:53 SonyaAndrV: Yes, Dr. Brown. It was hard for me to participate,
but i followed.
2007.07.19 09:57:55 JoseRH: Very rud e
2007.07.19 09:57:56 CatherineZ: thats why is on syllabuses now!
2007.07.19 09:57:58 LuciaG: i am slow in texting
2007.07.19 09:57:59 JoseRH: rude
2007.07.19 09:58:00 CatherineZ: NO TEXTING IN CLASS!
2007.07.19 09:58:02 JovanaG: hopefully
2007.07.19 09:58:02 IrmaalcatG: because in texts i say more than talking
2007.07.19 09:58:04 MarcS: typing fast isn't so hard you gotta let go of your
fingers and the words come out if you know where your fingers are supposed to
go you won't have many mistakes if...yer lucky
2007.07.19 09:58:05 JoseRH: thats right
2007.07.19 09:58:08 AnabellR: I do not know how to text in the phone
2007.07.19 09:58:08 JulissaL: im kind of nervous for the presentation
2007.07.19 09:58:17 SamanthaRG: being a moderator of sorts is hard
2007.07.19 09:58:24 LudivinaV: my kids know how to text
2007.07.19 09:58:27 XochitlP: so will we get an email ahead of time
2007.07.19 09:58:27 DanikaB: it's important we all just figure out how we interact
and learn from these different contexts...
2007.07.19 09:58:30 DanikaB: or at least that's my theory
2007.07.19 09:58:31 XochitlP: fromt he presenters?
2007.07.19 09:58:32 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 09:58:41 CatherineZ: good theory.
2007.07.19 09:58:42 AmeliaIG smiles
2007.07.19 09:58:45 LuciaG: i think you express more of your feelings by writting
than my actually telling someone
2007.07.19 09:58:51 LuciaG: since you may be shy
2007.07.19 09:58:53 CatherineZ: some people do
2007.07.19 09:58:53 DianaG: i agree is a good theory
2007.07.19 09:58:57 JoseRH: smiles
2007.07.19 09:58:58 EduardoG: i love blackberry's because texting is easy and
one can write professionally, where as with "regular" phones, text
can be a nightmare. lol
2007.07.19 09:58:58 AnabellR: ;
2007.07.19 09:58:59 JulissaL: true
2007.07.19 09:59:00 LudivinaV: it's good interaction
2007.07.19 09:59:02 XochitlP: QQQQ
2007.07.19 09:59:03 AidalinS: very good theory
2007.07.19 09:59:07 CatherineZ: others prefer talking in person in certain situations
2007.07.19 09:59:09 DanikaB: i think we've probably worn ourselves out enough
today and generated enough material/discussion to be able to process and analyze
and build on this experience.
2007.07.19 09:59:10 JovanaG: Danika don't you feel that in a classroom enivornment
you can control the disscussion where as here everyone is talking about something
different
2007.07.19 09:59:11 NancySal: you have more things to say and the way you express
is easier when texting
2007.07.19 09:59:13 AlexandrMB: i agre w LUCIA
2007.07.19 09:59:22 DanikaB: so, how about if we call it a day.
2007.07.19 09:59:28 AidalinS: i agree with NancySal
2007.07.19 09:59:29 CatherineZ: thatll be fine
2007.07.19 09:59:30 JoseRH: lets call it a day
2007.07.19 09:59:30 DanikaB: i will post the full transcript of this class at:
2007.07.19 09:59:31 LourdesR: I speak faster than I can type or text
2007.07.19 09:59:31 MarcS: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:33 KarinaS: ok
2007.07.19 09:59:33 JoseRH: see u tomorror
2007.07.19 09:59:34 VanessaT: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:34 AaronF: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:35 SonyaAndrV: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:36 AmeliaIG agrees with Danika
2007.07.19 09:59:36 JoseRH: bye
2007.07.19 09:59:38 AndreaZ: ok
2007.07.19 09:59:40 LudivinaV: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:42 KarinaS left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 09:59:43 AaronF: see ya'll tommorow
2007.07.19 09:59:44 VanessaT: had fun everyone
2007.07.19 09:59:44 NancySal: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:45 RubenB: OK
2007.07.19 09:59:47 CarolynJC: buh-bye everyone!
2007.07.19 09:59:47 AdrianB: okay
2007.07.19 09:59:48 IrmaalcatG: ok
2007.07.19 09:59:48 VanessaCas: ok
2007.07.19 09:59:48 LuisR: awsome
2007.07.19 09:59:49 SamanthaRG: ok
2007.07.19 09:59:51 LuciaG: ok
2007.07.19 09:59:51 JulissaL: alright
2007.07.19 09:59:52 JovanaG: k
2007.07.19 09:59:52 AmeliaIG: bye class
2007.07.19 09:59:54 AlexandrMB: k
2007.07.19 09:59:54 VictoriaNG: loved our online class
2007.07.19 09:59:54 DanikaB: http://www.redmonky.net/prof/courses/transcripts.html
2007.07.19 09:59:56 NancySal: see ya
2007.07.19 09:59:57 CatherineZ: aDiOS!
2007.07.19 09:59:58 SamanthaRG: bye everyone
2007.07.19 09:59:58 AnabellR: bye
2007.07.19 09:59:59 DianaG: goood bye, have a nice day everyone!!
2007.07.19 09:59:59 VanessaT: see ya tomorrow
2007.07.19 10:00:01 LuciaG: byee
2007.07.19 10:00:01 GracielaC: buh bye!!!
2007.07.19 10:00:02 DanikaB: and you'll be able to access that from the calendar.
2007.07.19 10:00:04 LudivinaV: bye
2007.07.19 10:00:05 HilarioP: byt
2007.07.19 10:00:05 MarcS: later folks
2007.07.19 10:00:05 AaronF left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:07 IrmaalcatG: bye
2007.07.19 10:00:05 VanessaCas: bye :) have a great day everyone!
2007.07.19 10:00:08 JulissaL: bye
2007.07.19 10:00:08 JovanaG: thanks
2007.07.19 10:00:10 AidalinS: byeee
2007.07.19 10:00:11 JulissaL: alrright
2007.07.19 10:00:12 AlexandrMB: bye
2007.07.19 10:00:16 DanikaB: we'll see you all for real tomorrow.. BRING DRAFTS
2007.07.19 10:00:17 JulissaL: cya in class tomorrow
2007.07.19 10:00:17 HilarioP: see ya
2007.07.19 10:00:17 CatherineZ: thanks, Danika. See you all tomorrow
2007.07.19 10:00:19 DanikaB menaces
2007.07.19 10:00:23 VanessaT left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:23 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 10:00:25 AdrianB: see you tomorrow
2007.07.19 10:00:28 AraceliaG: see ya
2007.07.19 10:00:29 XochitlP: no reading for tommarow rightght
2007.07.19 10:00:31 CatherineZ: Bye!
2007.07.19 10:00:32 AlexandrMB left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:32 DanikaB: thank you all for participating... see you
2007.07.19 10:00:36 MarcS: drafts! i'm already on it
2007.07.19 10:00:41 LourdesR: Dr. sent you an email did you get it?
2007.07.19 10:00:43 DanikaB: nope. you need to draft a summary response essay
though
2007.07.19 10:00:45 AndreaZ left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:47 AidalinS left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:49 NancySal: bye everybody see ya tomorrow in class
2007.07.19 10:00:53 GracielaC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:54 XochitlP: okay thanks bye =)
2007.07.19 10:00:59 JoseRH left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:59 VanessaCas left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:00:59 DanikaB: yes, lourdes, i got it... see, you already came
to class!
2007.07.19 10:01:10 DianaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:01:11 EduardoG: bye all
2007.07.19 10:01:19 DanikaB: you should send me a draft of a summary response
if you can. if not, we can talk about it next week.
2007.07.19 10:01:22 DanikaB: we meet online on monday
2007.07.19 10:01:25 JovanaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:01:33 LourdesR: Just through the computer hopefully in class by
Monday
2007.07.19 10:01:34 XochitlP left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:01:35 MarcS: dankia...what about the transcript
2007.07.19 10:01:42 DanikaB: i will post it at http://www.redmonky.net/prof/courses/transcripts.html
2007.07.19 10:01:43 MarcS: danika*
2007.07.19 10:01:48 LuciaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:01:48 DanikaB: after i log off and get it.
2007.07.19 10:01:51 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 10:01:51 HilarioP left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:01:57 CatherineZ left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:01:58 JulissaL left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:05 DanikaB: you can link to it from the calendar too
2007.07.19 10:02:05 VictoriaNG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:11 RuthM left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:19 LudivinaV left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:22 SonyaAndrV left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:25 MarcS: thanks
2007.07.19 10:02:26 JulissaL joined the room.
2007.07.19 10:02:29 LuisR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:30 DanikaB: you bet, Marc
2007.07.19 10:02:32 SamanthaRG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:36 MarcS: see ya tomorrow
2007.07.19 10:02:39 NuviaS left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:40 JulissaL left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:47 AnabellR left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:49 NancySal left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:02:50 DanikaB: Lourdes, you did see we are meeting online monday
right?
2007.07.19 10:02:58 AraceliaG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:01 DanikaB: class will meet regularly on Tuesdsay (and tomorrow)
2007.07.19 10:03:04 EduardoG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:06 IrmaalcatG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:19 LourdesR: I did now and summary for tomorrow
2007.07.19 10:03:22 RubenB left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:22 AmeliaIG left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:27 AdrianB left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:44 CarolynJC left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:03:59 DanikaB: cool.
2007.07.19 10:04:26 DanikaB: all right, i'm going to go ahead and log off so
i can get the transcript and publish it on your course pages.
2007.07.19 10:04:32 DanikaB: let me know if you all need anything else.
2007.07.19 10:04:33 DanikaB smiles
2007.07.19 10:04:43 LourdesR: thanks
2007.07.19 10:05:01 MarcS left the room (signed off).
2007.07.19 10:05:06 DanikaB waves and heads out
2007.07.19 10:05:11 DanikaB left the room (signed off).2007.07.19 10:05:11 Signoff